Garlic, Onions and Shallots: Your Fall Planting Guide - Ep. 272
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Garlic, Onions and Shallots: Your Fall Planting Guide - Ep. 272

Now is the time to be getting our garlic, shallots and even onions planted in some places. If you can give me one good hour in the garden this month, you can set yourself up for big flavor next summer.

Today on Just Grow Something were going to walk through planting garlic and shallots and some tips on where it’s okay to even plant onion sets for a summer harvest. We’ll talk about when to plant for your location, how to prep the bed, which onions and shallots make sense to plant now, troubleshooting and I'll answer your most frequently asked questions about planting these crops. Let’s dig in.


References and Resources

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Episode 40: Garlic - https://justgrowsomethingpodcast.com/episode/ep-40-growing-garlic

Episode 133: Growing Onions - https://justgrowsomethingpodcast.com/episode/ep-133-growing-onions

Episode 220 Planting Onions in Fall for a Summer Harvest - https://justgrowsomethingpodcast.com/episode/planting-onions-in-fall-for-a-summer-harvest-ep-220

Episode 221 Tips for Planting Garlic by Climate Type - https://justgrowsomethingpodcast.com/episode/garlic-planting-tips-by-climate-ep-221

YouTube Video for Fall Planted Onions - https://youtu.be/qVv6AgPCvdI

Sprout Mountain Farm fall planting onions - https://www.sproutmountainfarms.com/category/untreated-onion-sets



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I know many of us are sort of worn out from the summer garden

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right now, and fall is just sort of trotting in really slowly in

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some spaces, but now is the time to be getting our garlic, our

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shallots, and even onions into the garden in some places.

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If you can give me one good hour in the garden this month, you

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can absolutely set yourself up for really big flavor next

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summer, plus a few bonuses along the way.

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So today on Just Grow Something, we're going to walk through

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planting garlic and shallots and some tips on where it's OK to

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even plant onion sets for a summer harvest.

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We'll talk about when to plant for your location, how to prep

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the bed, and details about planting, which onions and

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shallots make sense to plant now, troubleshooting, and will

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answer your most frequently asked questions about these

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crops. Let's dig in.

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Hey, I'm Karen and what started as a small backyard garden 20

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years ago turned into a lifelong passion for growing food.

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you do the same. On this podcast, I am your

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the chance to get into some pretty good details about

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subjects that maybe don't warrant an entire episode to

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themselves. Or sometimes additional details

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about a topic that we covered on the show.

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But then, you know, maybe that part got cut in editing or

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something. It's also a really easy way for

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you to give me suggestions for topics or ask me questions

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directly by just replying to those emails.

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I read every reply that I get. So just

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growsomethingpodcast.com/news and I will leave a link to that

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in the show notes. So if you are completely new to

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growing any of these crops, I'm going to leave links to full

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crop specific episodes for garlic and onions, plus the very

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detailed episode on planting onions in the fall in the show

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description. There's a lot of good

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information in those episodes and they really are worth the

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listen. O this is honestly the time of

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year when I am just begging for the first frost to hit and

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please just take out all of my plants because I'm tired, right?

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Our last frost date, our last normal frost date is usually

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like October 20th. And so yeah, we're past that now

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and we still haven't had our first frost.

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And you know, looking at the 10 day forecast, it doesn't look

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like it's, you know, anywhere near frosting anytime soon.

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And so I am still picking, you know, tomatoes and Peppers and

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cutting celery and cucumbers. And I'm kind of over it.

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And so when we're tired like this, it might seem like, you

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know, getting out there and prepping a bed or two to be able

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to get these things like garlic and onions into the ground.

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It just sounds like a lot of effort.

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And maybe we're just not into it.

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But trust me when I say the effort is worth it is a really

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good quick win in the spring without really having to do much

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at all. OK.

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If you can dedicate 1 area where you can go through and you can

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do some cleanup and you can do some bed prep and get these

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crops in, you will absolutely be thankful for it in the spring.

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And it doesn't necessarily have to be like one entire bed.

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If you are trying to do more in terms of intercropping next

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season, then garlic and onions and shallots are things that are

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really good for tucking in along the ends of beds that will be

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planted to other mixed crops in the spring.

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These can also be tucked into the corners of like your raised

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planters. And so you're still having

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places where you can plant all of your other crops because you

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will know where these are. These will already be popping up

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in the spring before you're ready to plant anything else.

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So it's not like you're going to forget where they are.

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OK. And again, you can just do full

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beds of these if you want to or intermix them.

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There are loads and loads of options here for just getting

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these out into the garden. And that also includes doing

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some things in pots, if you can put them in a protected area or

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if you're not quite in such a cold zone.

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OK, so we're going to start with garlic because October is kind

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of prime time in a lot of the Northern Hemisphere for planting

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garlic. Now, some of these things, if

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you are in a colder zone, say maybe zone 4 or colder right

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now, you might have missed the window.

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Don't panic because you might still be able to do something

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with these. So long as your ground is not

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frozen by now, you very well may be beyond your first frost.

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And that's, that's OK. We just don't want the ground

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solidly frozen yet, OK? We want to get them in at the

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right time so that they get a chance to go ahead and, and

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root. But not all is not lost if if

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you think you've missed the window, OK, garlic should go

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into the ground in the fall because it needs vernalization.

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This is like a cold period. Otherwise those bulbs are not

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going to differentiate. You're not going to get those

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multiple cloves in the bulb. So it roughly needs like a month

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or two at temperatures between 32 and 50°F in order to be able

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to properly differentiate like that.

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So this chilling naturally happens if we planted in the

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fall. If you really are in an area

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where it has just gotten too late to do this, you can do a

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spring planting, but you're going to have to artificially

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chill those cloves first. So you will need to put them

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like in your refrigerator for a good 6 to 8 weeks prior to

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planting them out in the spring. They're still going to be

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smaller more than likely, but at least you'll get those

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differentiated bulbs instead of just like one giant clove, which

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if you've ever planted garlic in the spring and it didn't get

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that, that vernalization period, you know exactly what I'm

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talking about. You get like one giant clove of

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garlic and that's it. You don't get the individuals OK

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in terms of what type you should be planting.

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Hard neck garlic is really generally better for the colder

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climates and the bonus to this is that you get that edible

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scape in the late spring that you can cut off and you can use

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that before you even harvest the garlic.

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Soft neck tends to be better in milder climates.

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Softneck also tends to store longer.

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So if you're in an area like I am where we're zone 6B, we are

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practically like smack dab in the middle of the growing zones.

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I can actually plant both and do both very successfully.

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How they grow tends to be based on what our winter temperatures

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are like. So sometimes we have very, very

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mild winters and our soft neck does phenomenally well and the

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hard neck is just kind of so so. And then there are other years

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where we have a really, really harsh winter and the hard neck

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does phenomenally well and the soft neck just kind of does so.

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So here in recent years, I think the soft neck has really sort of

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won out just because number one, soft neck tends to be a larger

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head of garlic. So if you like a lot of cloves

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in your garlic, then soft neck is the way to go if you can get

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away with it in your climate. But we also do the hard neck too

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because it generally has a stronger flavor.

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So soft neck is going to store longer and it's also what you

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use to make braids in most instances.

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If you want to do a garlic braid, the soft neck is easier

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to work with and the hard neck, although it tends to be smaller,

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does tend to have a stronger flavor.

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So we just like to do both. Now do you need to order

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certified disease free garlic? Yes and no.

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OK. That is the recommendation.

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And if it's your first time ever growing garlic, then I would

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recommend yes. If you can do that, then by all

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means do it. It's going to give you a better

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level of initial success. You're not going to worry about

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bringing a disease into your garden that you don't already

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have. And you know that it has been

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cured properly in order to be able to, you know, sprout

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properly. You know it hasn't been sprayed

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with anything that would prevent it from sprouting.

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This is the only problem. Well, not the only problem.

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One of the problems with buying garlic in the grocery store and

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trying to grow it, often times it is sprayed with a hormone to

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keep it from sprouting and that obviously defeats the purpose if

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we want them to sprout. OK, you can do better if you're

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buying like certified organic bulbs in the grocery store.

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But if the price of like seed garlic sends you reeling because

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it is fairly expensive, I think this year the sources that I

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have seen, they've gone up to close to, you know, $28.00 for a

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pound of seed garlic, which is really, really high.

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And I get it. They're certified that, you

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know, they don't have a disease. And so, you know, it's a good

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way to start. But if you have a farmer close

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to you that you trust, if there is somebody at the farmers

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market that you shop with or you have ACSA through who grows

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things in organic matter and you know, they can tell you no,

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we've had no diseases. Yes, this is OK for you to

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plant. You likely can find seed garlic

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a lot less expensively if you just get them straight from your

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local farmer. So, but if you really want to

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make sure that you're getting off to your best start, then

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yes, certified disease free actual seed garlic is a really

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good idea. The classic rule of thumb

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basically for garlic is you want to plant it about three to six

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weeks before the ground freezes. Now it's like, oh, when is that

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going to be? Because you never really know,

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right? So just aim for when your soil

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temperatures are around 50°F and they're starting to drop.

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So in my colder regions, yeah, late September, maybe early

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October. If you haven't gotten your

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garlic in, you really probably want to do that.

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Once we get further South or we get into those warmer regions,

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we're talking October into November.

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I have planted our garlic and our onions as late as the third

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week in November and had no problem with them, you know,

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getting rooted in. The key here is that you really

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just want enough time for the roots to get established, but

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you don't want to plant so early that you're getting a ton of

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leafy top growth and then you have a hard freeze that kind of

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kills it off. The hard freezes obviously

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aren't going to damage these bulbs, but you don't want all

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that green at the top because that can actually, you know,

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improve your chances or increase your chances of there being some

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damage to the bulb underneath. The one thing to remember mostly

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about where you plant your garlic is that garlic does not

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like having its feet wet. OK, It doesn't want to be wet

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all the time. So we want a sunny bed because

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you are going to want the full sun.

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You want to make sure that it is well drained.

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This is why raised planters, raised beds are really, really

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great for this because you tend to have better drainage.

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If you can work in some finished compost for organic matter and

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even some fertility, that is really going to do well.

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For garlic, it really likes that organic matter.

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This is especially important if you have very heavy soil.

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You want to probably prioritize drainage over fertility if you

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have to choose between them, if you have really heavy soil,

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because you know the bulbs just are not going to get to the

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mature size or the right size if they're in really heavy, sort of

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mucky, wet soil, OK. You do want to make sure though

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that you are sort of rotating these crops away from other alum

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crops. So if you have a bed where you

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grew onions this year, you likely do not want to rotate in

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any garlic. Now, the one caveat to this is

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if you do a lot of heavy inter planting and intercropping like

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I do, then you're less likely to need to worry about rotating

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these crops because we're mixing all of those crops in and

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against each other, especially when they're in different, you

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know, plant families, then we're minimizing that disease risk.

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But if you have seen anything like any type of a white rod or

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basil rod or anything in any of your alliums before, then make

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sure that you're rotating those beds and absolutely start with

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clean seed stock. That's going to be your number

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one disease prevention step. So any allium diseases

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whatsoever, however, then yes, go for that certified seed

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garlic. OK, When you go to plant garlic,

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you're going to break those bulbs into their individual

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cloves right before planting. This is not something that you

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want to do ahead of time, and you want to try to keep as much

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of that papery wrapper intact on each one of those cloves.

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And sometimes it's just going to come off.

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That's just how it goes, especially if you have saved

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your own garlic to replant. That's another thing too.

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If you have grown garlic this year and you, you know, you want

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to go ahead and use your own, then that's fine.

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Just make sure that you are choosing the largest, healthiest

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cloves that you have and then save the smaller ones for use in

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your kitchen. OK, so just like when we're

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saving seeds and we we see the specimen that is the biggest and

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the best and the most beautiful, and that is the one that we save

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our seeds from because that's the genetics that we're trying

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to reproduce. Same thing goes with the garlic.

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If you're planting from very small bulbs or small cloves,

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then you're likely going to get small garlic.

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So pick the biggest and the best to go ahead and plant those.

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Make sure that you plant with the pointy end up.

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You want that basil plate where the the root system is to be

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facing down, and then you're going to cover each one of those

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cloves with about one to two inches of soil, which is going

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to put it roughly about two to three inches deep, depending on

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how you have prepped your bed. If you do it all in a furrow and

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you drop them down and then you cover up, then yeah, it's going

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to be about two to three inches. If you just poke holes, which is

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what I tend to do, and drop them in, then you're looking at about

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two inches or so down and then just patting it covered up.

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If you are in a very cold zone or you have soil that is really

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prone to frost heave, meaning as that freeze thaw cycle continues

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through the winter, it tends to push things up out of the

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ground, you might need to plant a little bit more deep.

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So 3 to 4 inches might actually be how you want to plant your

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garlic. OK.

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If you're in a milder zone, then yeah, shallower is fine.

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One to two inches is going to be OK.

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You just want to space them about four to six inches apart

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in rows that are about 8 to 12 inches apart.

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Or you can do it in a grid like the square foot gardening method

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or whatever and just do them in, in, in blocks that way.

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And that's what I tend to do. I just, I just space them, you

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know, four or six. Usually it's about 6 inches

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across because I have a dibbler that my husband built for me

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where each little, I don't know spacer I guess is 6 inches from

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each other and the whole thing is 4 feet wide if I remember

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correctly. So I just go 6 inches by 6

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inches all the way down. That's how I do my onions the

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same way. OK, so it's, it's just because

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I'm planting so many, it makes sense for me just to use the

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same dibbler and just to do the same thing over and over again.

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In terms of water, you just want to water once basically after

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you're planting it just to set up of the soil.

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And then you know, if you're in a very dry zone through the

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winter times, then you might need to water occasionally.

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You, you know it since it's not actively growing.

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Again, we don't want that to be super saturated all the time.

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We don't want their feet wet, but you don't want it to be bone

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dry either. So if either your your soil

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conditions are really dry, unusually for you for, for the

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winter, then you might want to once, once a month give it some

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water. Otherwise, generally speaking,

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you can just let you know the rainfall or the snowfall take

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care of it for you in the in the winter time.

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The one thing that you also do though, is you want to mulch.

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OK, This is your insurance policy whether especially if you

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were in a cold area, if you were in a very warm area, you may not

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necessarily need to mulch, but you know me and my feelings on

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mulch. This is going to protect your

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soil no matter what. So 3 or 4 inches of clean straw

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or shredded leaves over the bed immediately after planting is

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really going to help buffer those winter temperature swings.

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So it's going to prevent that sort of freeze thaw heating.

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It is also going to help to keep those spring weeds at Bay

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because we don't want that competition with our garlic when

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they're just starting to sprout in the springtime.

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OK. If you are in a very, very cold

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area, then you likely want to add as much as 6 inches of straw

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to help with keeping it insulated.

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But you are going to have to pull it back in the spring to

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help warm that soil up and just leave a thin layer to suppress

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those weeds, OK. You might see a little bit of

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growth on these depending on when you plant them, and a

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little bit of growth is fine. We don't want there to be like 4

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inches or 6 inches of growth before we start to see our

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really hard freezes. So if that does happen, that's

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an indication for you the next time that maybe you want to wait

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and plant a little bit later. Once we get to the spring and

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you start seeing those shoots coming up and they're about 6 to

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8 inches tall, that is when we saw a top dress or side dress

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with some sort of a nitrogen source and then keep that

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moisture sort of steady as the bulbs start to grow.

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And then we want to back off the water as we approach the

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harvest. So if you go back and listen to

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that garlic episode, it's going to have a lot more information

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about, you know, how what to do in the spring and how to harvest

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and those types of things. We're just worried right now

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about getting them in the ground and getting them off to a really

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good start. Yeah, let's talk onions and

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shallots. And if you're wondering what the

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difference is between onions and shallots, because I never really

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had an idea before, basically onions grow individually,

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whereas shallots grow in clusters similar to garlic.

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Like, you know, you see the individual cloves of garlic,

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that's sort of how shallots grow.

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They kind of grow in these clumps.

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Shallots generally have a milder, a little bit more

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delicate flavor compared to onions, which tend to be a

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little bit sharper. And then of course, because

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they're growing in this little cluster, shallots have more of a

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teardrop shape and they have a light purplish flesh where, you

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know, onions are typically round or maybe kind of, you know,

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squat. And they can obviously vary in

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color. You got purple, red to yellow to

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white, all of these things. OK, most people will go ahead

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and plant shallots in the fall. The sets can be planted

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basically after your first frost so that you get a late spring to

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early summer harvest in a lot of climates.

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These are ones where you want to space them about 3 to 6 inches

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apart in rows that are 12 to 18 inches apart.

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This is very, very similar to how we plant our garlic.

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So again, I'm just going to do 6 by 6 for my entire grid.

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But if you're planting these in little pockets of your raised

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beds or in beds that are going to be mixed then later on down

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the road, then just do them, you know, 3 to 6 inches apart in

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whatever way that you can. The beautiful thing about all of

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these things, the alums, they don't need any pollination.

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They're not, you know, necessarily needing to be up

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against others of their kind in order to be able to grow.

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So you can pop them in wherever you want, just so long as

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they're not too close together, you're not worried about how

00:21:26
them being too far apart. OK.

00:21:28
Now, if you do have really, really severe winters, then

00:21:33
shallots can be a little bit sensitive to this.

00:21:35
So if you are like zone 4 or colder, then you might consider

00:21:41
extra mulch or just waiting until the spring because you

00:21:45
absolutely can do this in the spring too.

00:21:47
I just like to get a jump on things.

00:21:50
It's one less thing that I have to worry about in the spring and

00:21:53
that is why I also do my onions. So for bulbing onions, the large

00:21:59
bulbing onions, most resources are going to recommend doing

00:22:03
them in the spring. But fall planting does have a

00:22:07
niche. OK, you can absolutely do some

00:22:10
bunching onions, right? They're all that.

00:22:12
There are like perennial and multiplier types.

00:22:16
That's the Egyptian walking onion is one of them.

00:22:20
But I do full blown onion sets in the fall and I basically

00:22:26
treat them the exact same way I do shallots or I do garlic.

00:22:30
And in some areas this is going to work for you.

00:22:33
In other areas, it's just going to give you like early green

00:22:37
onions. Or if they go a little bit

00:22:40
further, then you might get what we refer to as spring onions,

00:22:44
which means they're not really getting to that full size

00:22:46
maturity that you normally would harvest for a big summer bulb.

00:22:50
But these are still very good, like you still get like the

00:22:54
green top that you can use for green onions and you get an

00:22:58
immature onion that's maybe just not huge, but it's fresh and you

00:23:02
can use it right away. So we do both, right?

00:23:06
I will plant onion sets right now in the fall in the exact

00:23:09
same manner that I do the shallots and I do the the

00:23:14
garlic. So I'm trying to get them in,

00:23:18
you know, four to six weeks before the first really kind of

00:23:22
hard freeze. Usually this is around now in,

00:23:27
you know, warmer areas it it might be later.

00:23:30
Again, the same thing with the onions and the shallots is you

00:23:35
want the sets to establish some roots but you don't want them to

00:23:39
start to develop like any top growth before the winter.

00:23:42
I have planted again these sets as late as mid November in our

00:23:46
warmer years like what we're having now and had no problem.

00:23:50
It's really more about the soil temperature at this stage of the

00:23:53
game and less about the air temperatures and the daylight

00:23:56
hours. We just want them to get some

00:23:59
root growth on them before they go completely dormant.

00:24:03
And in my experience, you may see some top growth depending on

00:24:06
the air temperatures through the winter.

00:24:08
OK, I actually have a YouTube video titled Fall Planting

00:24:14
Onions, I think, and I will link to that one in the show notes

00:24:18
also. And you can see in that video, I

00:24:21
show the onions in January and you can see they have, you know,

00:24:25
long green tops on them, but they haven't been damaged.

00:24:29
They're, they're OK. So essentially you want to do

00:24:32
the same thing with your onions, your bold onions, as you do with

00:24:35
your garlic. You do want to mulch.

00:24:37
And again, that the mulch is going to be heavier the colder

00:24:40
your area is. And in some instances when they

00:24:44
come up in the spring, they, they may end up bolting

00:24:47
depending on what area of the country you're in or what zone

00:24:51
you are in. And that is OK.

00:24:52
They are still usable. But This is why I do both.

00:24:55
So I will plant the sets in the fall, and then I will plant from

00:24:59
seedlings in the spring. So I will start seedlings

00:25:03
indoors and I will transplant those out.

00:25:05
And that way I'm sort of, once again, covering all my bases to

00:25:07
make sure that I get what I need in terms of my onions.

00:25:13
OK, So what about some troubleshooting?

00:25:15
There are three easy ways that you can kind of, you know, cause

00:25:20
problems with any of these crops.

00:25:21
And the first one is planting too early because you're going

00:25:23
to get a lot of top growth that winter kills, and the

00:25:26
possibility of you damaging that bulb underneath is much higher.

00:25:30
The other way is to plant too late and you're going to get

00:25:33
poor rooting, which means that they may not survive the winter

00:25:37
because they have no way to take up any water or anything during

00:25:41
the winter time. They're just going to kind of

00:25:42
sit there and rot. The other thing is you can get

00:25:45
that frost heaving if it doesn't get a chance to root in at all.

00:25:48
As your soil goes through that freeze thaw cycle, they're more

00:25:52
likely to pop up out of the ground and be damaged.

00:25:54
And then the third way is that soggy soil.

00:25:57
None of these crops like having their feet wet.

00:25:59
So you know, make sure that it's well draining soil.

00:26:03
Try to plant when you know you're not getting a solid rain

00:26:07
going on in some areas. I know winter tends to be your

00:26:11
rainy season. So if you can get them in the

00:26:13
ground before that starts happening, that's your best

00:26:15
idea. Just use your timing cues and in

00:26:18
terms of, you know, the temperatures and, and when you

00:26:21
think your your frost or your ground is going to start to

00:26:23
freeze and use that as your guide as to when to get these

00:26:28
in. Again, mulch and winter care for

00:26:33
your onions is essentially the same as your garlic.

00:26:35
So when you're overwintering onions, you want to mulch to

00:26:38
help insulate these bulbs. It's also going to retain the

00:26:40
moisture. It's going to suppress the

00:26:42
weeds. The best mulch options kind of

00:26:45
depend on your climate and what materials you have available to

00:26:47
you. I always use straw.

00:26:49
We've also done shredded leaves. If you live somewhere where pine

00:26:53
trees are prevalent, pine needles are fine.

00:26:55
If you're in really cold zones, I definitely suggest the straw

00:26:58
and the shredded leaves. They tend to have the best

00:27:00
insulation. If you're in a warmer zone, you

00:27:03
may not need much mulch at all for any kind of cold protection,

00:27:07
mainly just for weed prevention. OK, So again, 3 to 4 inches,

00:27:12
just like with our garlic, if you are in a colder climate,

00:27:15
even more if you need to and you're going to have to pull

00:27:18
that back. And then, you know, if you're in

00:27:20
a zone like 7 through 9, two inches is probably plenty.

00:27:24
If you are in zones 3 through 6, your onion sets are going to

00:27:29
remain dormant during the winter and they're going to start

00:27:31
resuming growth very slowly in the early spring as the soil

00:27:36
starts to warm and then they're suddenly going to take off.

00:27:39
So if you can keep the soil lightly moist through the

00:27:41
spring, especially as the weather warms, then you're going

00:27:44
to be better off. If you're in zone 7 through 11,

00:27:48
your seedlings, your onion seedlings are going to continue

00:27:51
to grow over the winter and it's going to put on more growth as

00:27:56
the spring approaches. So again, water regularly, but

00:28:00
we don't want to over saturate the soil.

00:28:02
And then as far as feeding them, once that spring growth resumes,

00:28:08
then you're going to want to side dress just like with the

00:28:10
garlic, with a nitrogen rich fertilizer of some sort, blood

00:28:14
meal, composted manure, feather meal.

00:28:17
And that's going to promote that leafy growth.

00:28:20
You do want to stop feeding that nitrogen once those bulbs start

00:28:24
to swell. If you see bulbs starting to

00:28:26
heave up after it starts to thaw in a little bit in the in the

00:28:30
winter, toss some extra mulch on the bed, you know, in the

00:28:34
spring. Then you can decide if you want

00:28:35
to pull that mulch aside to warm up the soil or if you just want

00:28:39
to leave a thinner layer to keep the weeds down.

00:28:41
But you know, that's, that's the perfect way to to approach it.

00:28:48
OK so can you plant grocery store garlic?

00:28:53
Yes, but avoid it if it's if it's not organic for sure

00:28:58
because it likely has been treated to prevent that

00:29:00
sprouting. It can possibly carry diseases.

00:29:03
So if you are new to this game, please use certified seed or

00:29:06
garlic bulbs from a trusted grower.

00:29:09
If you've missed this fall window then plant in the early

00:29:13
spring, right? Consider pre chilling those

00:29:15
cloves, so about 6 to 8 weeks in the refrigerator to at least get

00:29:21
that differentiation of the bulbs.

00:29:24
You still might expect some smaller bulbs.

00:29:27
Mulch, mulch, mulch. Please 3 to 4 inches of straw or

00:29:30
shredded leaves. If you are in a really cold

00:29:32
region, then make sure that you are mulching heavier.

00:29:35
And at this point, once you get a good crop of garlic, then you

00:29:41
can hold those like your biggest and best healthiest bulbs from

00:29:46
the harvest to go ahead and plant again the next year.

00:29:50
If you haven't seen any diseases.

00:29:52
Now, can you grow your own sets, onion sets?

00:29:56
The answer is yes. Those onion sets are simply

00:30:00
onion seeds that were grown right into a little seedling and

00:30:04
they were allowed to start to form that little bulb and then

00:30:08
they were bent over and basically pinched off to prevent

00:30:13
them from continuing to grow. This is sort of forcing them

00:30:17
into a dormancy and making them essentially going to be a second

00:30:22
year onion when you plant them. So if you want to try doing your

00:30:27
own, you can save some of your spring seedlings if you grow

00:30:32
them from seed, plant half of them, allow the others to

00:30:35
continue to grow a little bit. Or you can plant them really,

00:30:38
really close together out in the garden if you want.

00:30:41
And then once they get to, you know, a nice little, I don't

00:30:45
know what size you would call that.

00:30:46
I mean like a Pearl onion, right?

00:30:48
Once they get to that size, pinch them over and get them to

00:30:52
stop growing, pull them and let them dry and then you have your

00:30:56
own sets to plant in the fall. I know it can be difficult to

00:30:59
find sets to plant. I will leave a link in the show

00:31:02
notes to where we always get ours and I've had great, great

00:31:06
luck with it. I just encourage you, you know,

00:31:08
garlic and onions both, it is sort of low effort because you

00:31:12
get to throw it in the ground and then just give it minimal

00:31:15
attention over the winter time and it's going to start bouncing

00:31:18
back up for you in the spring. It's like a no brainer.

00:31:21
Just make sure you're picking a sunny, well drained bed and

00:31:23
you're losing, you know, clean seed.

00:31:26
You're planting them at the appropriate depth and the

00:31:28
appropriate width away from each other and you're basically done

00:31:31
until spring, OK? Just make sure that you're

00:31:33
giving everybody a little mulch blanket too.

00:31:36
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00:31:48
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00:31:50
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00:31:54
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00:31:56
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