Good Bug or Garden Pest? How to Identify Insects in Your Vegetable Garden – Ep. 249

Good Bug or Garden Pest? How to Identify Insects in Your Vegetable Garden – Ep. 249


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We talk a lot as gardeners about how to do things in the garden

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that deter pests specifically the insect pests, that likes you

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to holes in our leaves. Devour our fruit, and just

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generally, lay waste to all of our hard efforts.

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We also talked about attracting beneficial insects to the

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Garden, both pollinators and predators.

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What we don't talk about as often is how to identify, which

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of those Critters is beneficial and which is causing Havoc.

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Sometimes they can look very similar to each other and

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sometimes the ones that look, the most menacing are actually

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the good guys ever seen a ladybug larvae.

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Yeah, those tiny little orange and black alligator.

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We want those in the garden. So today in just grow something,

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we're talking insect identification, how do we know

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what? Insects in our garden are pests

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in our region. And how do we even start to

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identify these pests? By the end of the episode?

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You'll know what steps to take to find out, what's good, what's

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bad and how to tell the difference let's dig in.

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Hey, I'm Karen. And what started as a small

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backyard garden 20 years ago turned into a lifelong passion

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for growing food. Now, is a market, farmer and

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horticulturist. I want to help you do the same

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on this podcast. I am your friend in the garden,

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teaching evidence-based, techniques to help you grow your

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favorite and build confidence in your own garden space.

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So, grab your garden journal, and a cup of coffee and get

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ready to just grow something. Before we jump in, this is your

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gentle reminder to add nutrients to your containers.

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If you are growing in pots or small Planters, yes, we should

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be amending our containers in some way.

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And sometimes in the same way that we do our larger Planters

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and our in-ground containers. But, but the smaller stuff, we

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may not always feel the need to add compost or refresh the soil,

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as often as we should the smaller the volume of soil.

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The more quickly, the soil nutrients are going to be

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depleted, especially if we have a very demanding planes in that

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soil. So, we need to be adding some

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food of some sort for that soil. And for those plants, if you've

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got a lot of containers and you don't want to buy specific plant

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food for each one, depending on what it is that you're growing

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in each one. That's okay.

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Just get yourself a balanced Amendment and followed

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directions for using that Amendment on the package.

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I like a liquid version. And I like to do it about once

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every two weeks or so, or maybe once per month, depending on

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what I'm growing. But a granulated version is

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fine, too. If you want to work that into

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the soil and then just let it slowly release into that soil,

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over a period of six rate weeks. Just make sure that you are

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feeding those plants so they can continue to produce for you all

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season long or for as long as they are viable.

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It really does mean a lot this episode was inspired by a

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comment that I got from Manda on Spotify for the episode that we

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did on companion planting myths and tips that was episode 246

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She said can you please do an episode on beneficial bugs

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versus the damaging one? I struggle to identify the good

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and the bad ones. That was a great suggestion.

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So here we are today. If you ever have a suggestion

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after four years of doing this every single week.

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So thank you for the suggestion, mana on we go. so, Understanding

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which insects are beneficial and which ones are harmful is really

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crucial for maintaining a healthy garden.

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Ecosystems, we obviously don't want the insects that are going

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to continue to predate on our things that we are trying to

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grow to be able to each or even just for the beauty of them.

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And we also want to encourage the beneficials that are in

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there at without damaging them. So we don't want to just blanket

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Lee being, you know, spraying insecticides or using things

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that might hurt the pollinators and all.

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So the other beneficials that you know, kind of do pest

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control for us. so, Just to kind of Define what it is that we're

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talking about when I'm saying beneficial insects, I'm talking

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about those insects that play very vital roles, like

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pollination or Pest Control meaning they predate on other

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insects and decomposition. So for instance, ladybugs

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specifically ladybug larvae, they consume large quantities of

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aphids. All right of course we're all

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thinking about bees bees are our essential pollinators and I'm

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not talking about honey. Bees necessarily goes are

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imported here in North America. If you're someplace over in

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Europe, then yes. Maybe you know the bees, the

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honey bees are you know, doing a lot of the pollination there but

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our native pollinators here as well are native bees, but all,

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so butterflies and that sort of thing, even things like pill

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bugs. They are very good for breaking

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down that detritus. That is in our soil, or on top

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of our soil. So those data indicating matter

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and breaking that down. So it works its way as fresh

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hummus into our soil, right? These are all beneficial things

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that we want happening in our Gardens.

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The pest insects are the ones that can damage what we are,

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growing by feeding on the leaves, or the stems, or the

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roots, or the fruits, or just by transmitting diseases through

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that, feeding activity, or even pollination activity.

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So, you know, it may not be necessarily that they're feeding

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is destroying the plant but then in that point they transmit a

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disease and that disease ends up damaging the plants.

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So Aphids for example, they suck the sap from the plants, they

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can also spread viruses, but in most instances it's about, you

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know, the damage that they do, if they get to be overwhelming

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for a plant, a lot of plants can handle a little bit of aphid,

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predation, but once it starts to get overwhelming, then they

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start to succumb cucumber beetles.

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They don't necessarily damage the plants as much as you might

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think. They damage the fruit.

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They can absolutely damage the actual cucumber itself, but as

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their feeding on the plant, they are actually transmitting

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bacterial Wilt and that is what eventually ends up killing off

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your cucumber plant. Those pill bugs that I

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mentioned. Yes, they are beneficial in the

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garden because they are eating that dead and decaying matter.

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And so it's turning that matter back into nutrients in the soil

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and really good hummus for the soil.

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But in two high of a quantity in the garden.

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They can also cause damage to the crops that we are trying to

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grow if there isn't enough in the soil for them to be breaking

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down. And they are being attracted to

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those copious amounts of mulch that we're laying down and that

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mulches too close, maybe to our plants or it's trapping a lot of

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moisture. And we've had a really, really

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rainy season. Then the pill bugs will, you

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know, be there in Mass. There's nothing for them to eat,

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so they start to eat your plants or the roots of your plants.

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I've, you know, how to radishes damage here recently, because of

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the high number of pill bugs had a friend message me saying, oh

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my gosh, these pill bugs are eating my lettuces.

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What do I do? So, don't ever let anybody tell

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you that pill bugs. Don't eat your plants, they

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absolutely do, but they generally will do it.

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When they're is a mass amount of them and they don't have

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anything else. To chew on are they don't have

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anything else to eat, right? So, these are all things that we

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have to concern ourselves with and we talk about something

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being a pest. When we are trying to identify.

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What is in our Gardens in terms of good bug versus bad bug,

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right? There are a couple of different

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resources that I'm going to recommend to you and places for

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you to start. I always think it's a great idea

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to start with your local University, extension service

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and or your State's Department of Conservation.

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This is going to give you very region specific information on

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insect ID. You know, I talk a lot about

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squash bugs and Vine borers and cucumber beetles because again,

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those are the bane of my existence in one of the largest

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crops that I grow out here. People in other areas of North

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America have no idea what those things are because they just

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don't exist in that area or they are so few and far between that

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it's not something that they have to concern themselves with.

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They don't need to identify those insects. but, In their

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area. It may be Melanie worm or

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pickleworm, which I have never seen and I would have no reason

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to worry about what a melon more a pickle worm looks like or how

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to keep them out of my garden because we don't have those

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here, so your University extension service.

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Oftentimes, they are going to have places on their website,

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that is going to talk about the crops that are most commonly

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grown in your area. Whether that is a commodity type

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crop or it is something that gardeners are growing and every

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University extension is different, you know.

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It varies from state to state but this is, you know, a general

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rule of thumb for your extension services.

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They're going to have that information somewhere on the

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site and under the description of each of those things,

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oftentimes they will tell you what the insect pests are.

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That predate on, that particular crop for your particular area.

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So, you know, if I go to a general website that says, okay,

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you know if you're growing squashes you could potentially

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have these insect pests. And it gives me a whole laundry

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list of insects that might predate on squash, that's not

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getting me anywhere. Because now, I think I have to

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figure out what 12 different insects look like when maybe

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only three of those actually exist in my state.

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So starting with your University extension service or again going

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to your Department of Conservation.

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They oftentimes are also going to have lists of insect pests

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for your particular state or at least your region that is going

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to give you a place to start. So as you are planting your

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garden or you are even just planning your garden and what it

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is that you want to grow. You might want to familiarize

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yourself ahead of time of what you might want to be looking

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for. So another resource that you can

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use or other resources, you can use online, are things like bug

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guide.net. This is an online community and

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a database that is how hosted by Iowa State University.

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So it offers a lot of information and identification

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assistance for North American insects and for my non-north

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American listeners. I apologize.

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I am not super familiar with all the resources that you have, but

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I'm hoping that there is something that is the

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equivalent. In your area to like our

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University extension service or our Departments of conservation

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that will help you all with regions, specific information.

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And then maybe you have something like a bug guide dot

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net. That does for you what they do

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for us here in North America. It is specific to you know,

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identifying North American insects and it's really good,

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it's got pictures, it's got all kinds of things.

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It's got a search function in there that will help you to

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break down. You know, the identifying

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characteristics of what it is that you're searching for and

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help you to find it. You can also use Google and

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other search functions to help you.

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Identify these insect pests. Particularly, if you are able to

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use Google's lens function, it's very very helpful to take a

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photo of the insect that might be in question and then use your

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Google Lens search in order to be able to find images that are

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very similar to what Google Lens sees in your photos.

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So your guide for this is going to make sure that you're getting

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as close up as possible, you're showing as much detail as

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possible. You're kind of cropping out and

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anything extra that might be in that photo so that the search

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function. Can actually focus on just what

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it is that, you want it to identify and then see what you

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can find. That is very similar, then Trace

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that image back to where it originated and make sure that it

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is a trusted source for identification.

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So, again, a University, extension website, Maybe it does

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lead back to bugguide.net or some other service that is

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helping to identify insects. The thing about using these

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online searches is that you need to be very specific about what

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information you are entering into these resources and how you

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enter it in order to be able to really narrow down the search

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and we will get to that in here in a second, okay?

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And then finally, if you can get your hand on something like a

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Peterson's Field Guide for insects, this is what I use.

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And the only reason I even have this is because I got it as part

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of my undergrad studies. So it has a lovely pictured.

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He to the principal orders of insects in the front and the

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back cover, and it has a really cool.

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So sort of method for being able to Identify or break down what

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you're looking at. By asking very specific

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questions. Does it have wings, does it not

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have wings? You know, if it does have wings,

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is it got you know, two parts to the wings?

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Is it have four parts to the wings?

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Are they visible all the time? Are they not?

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Are they talked under, you know, and then it goes on to the next

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thing and the next thing. And the next thing in bite order

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of elimination, essentially it goes all the way through the key

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until it finally gets you To at least the family that that

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insect falls into and then you can go and look up the family

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and it has all kinds of pictures in it of what the insects are

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that fall into that family that are most common and so it gives

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a description of each one of those insects and it shows a

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picture, you know, breaking it down and makes it a lot easier

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for you to figure out. Okay, if you figured out that

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this insect is in the family homoptera, then we break it down

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into the cicadas and The Hoppers and the white flies and the

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aphids and then it breaks it down into.

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Okay, well this is what a plant Hopper looks like and this is

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what a white fly looks like. So it is very, very handy for me

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and somebody who is very nerdy when it comes to this kind of

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stuff. But I understand that not

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everybody has a Peterson Field Guide for insects sitting on the

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bookshelf in their office. For these particular things.

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Something that you want to pick up, its really great.

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All so for like when you go on a hike, And you see something that

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you've never seen before. If you can take a picture of it

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and come back, you can actually, you know, use this guide and a

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very clear photo of the insect that you're trying to identify

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to go through and figure out what it was.

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You were actively looking for. But also you know the things

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that this field guide talks about in terms of its

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identification are really essential for helping us enter

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in those parameters into an online search as well. the

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identification of insects is not that much different from iding,

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a bird or a mammal or a plant, even if it's just a matter of

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knowing, What to look for? And then using a process of

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elimination, essentially, to figure out what we're looking

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at. The thing that complicates

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identifying insects is that there are so many different

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kinds. I think in North America alone,

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there are over 88 species of insects.

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And a lot of them are really really small, which makes it

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hard to see all the different parts that we need to see in

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order to recognize those parts in order to ID them.

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So, you know, yeah, this is not something that is easy to do and

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it's people, you know, people spend their entire careers

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identifying insects and and finding new ways to identify

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them. And then we also have to take

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into consideration that a large portion of these insects look,

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completely different as larvae and as or juveniles as they do

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as adults. So, I mean, remember, the

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ladybug larvae I mentioned. Yeah, looks nothing.

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Like a ladybug when it's in its infancy, right?

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So I am going to try to give you some key information that you

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can use to help narrow down your search.

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When you are trying to identify an insect in your garden, the

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more information you have, when you go and do that search, the

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closer, you'll get you absolutely want to start with

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understanding. What it is that you might be

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looking for. Again, making sure that, you

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know, what insect pests or beneficials are prevalent in

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your area by looking at University extension or looking

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at your department of conservation or natural

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resources or whatever. And then understanding these

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basic insect identification techniques.

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So you can enter your search and be more accurate.

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So what are the basic sort of insect identification techniques

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that we can use in order to track down what it is that we're

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looking at? The first thing to do is

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identify its physical characteristics.

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Now, This is going to be a lot easier.

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If you can take a picture and then you have time to sit and

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look at the darn thing and figure out what it is that

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you're looking at. If you try to do this on the

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Fly, I mean, yes. Unintended I guess it makes it a

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little bit more difficult because you're trying to think

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back in your brain, okay, what am I supposed to be figuring out

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what? So, you know, I get it.

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If you have your phone with you out in the garden, you can snap

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a picture great. This makes it easier if you

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happen to be out there with a notebook in your, maybe taking

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notes in your garden journal, wink, wink nudge.

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Then you might be able to write down some quick notes about

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this, but just know that this is going to take some practice in

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in figuring out what it is that you're looking at.

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So, you know, don't beat yourself up if this sounds like

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it's hard. the first thing that you want to do is, Note its body

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shape and size. So is it elongated?

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Is it oval? Is it more round?

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How big is it? And if you can kind of compare

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this to something else that is stable in the garden.

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So, you know, if you see it land on a flower and then it flies

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away and you're trying to approximate its size.

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Well, then measure the size of the flower and then you can add

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that in there. This is an insect that is, you

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know, 0.25 inches long, or it's four centimeters or whatever it

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might be, okay? So the body shape and the size

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are some identifying characteristics Coloration and

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marking, this is something else. So what colors does it have,

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does it have any distinctive patterns or spots on it?

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And when we talk about the colors, you know, is it orange

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and black? And where is the orange?

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And where is the black? Is it happen?

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Orange. Body with black wings, does it

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have, you know, orange and black wings with a black body?

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All of these things are very particular information that you

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could be entering into these search engines or into these

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online resources. That is going to help you

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further identify what it is that you're looking at.

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So determine whether or not it has wings.

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Whether or not those wings remain visible at all times, say

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like a dragonfly, or if it's something that it tucks

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underneath a hard shell, like certain Beatles, okay?

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If you can count the number of wings, it's a single set of

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wings. Are they dual sets of wings like

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again on a dragonfly where it has two larger ones, and then

00:22:47
two smaller ones behind it. Also, what about its legs?

00:22:51
How long are the legs are they tucked up underneath its body?

00:22:55
Are they out splayed out to the side.

00:22:57
These are things that you can you know, put in as another

00:23:00
identifier, another one that's really good.

00:23:03
Is whether or not it has antennae if it does have

00:23:06
antennae How long are they antenna?

00:23:09
And what is the shape? There are some very specific

00:23:12
shapes to antenna that will indicate what family that insect

00:23:18
is in. Does it look like a fan?

00:23:20
Is it straight with like a little ball at the end of it?

00:23:23
Like, we typically think of, oh, and antennae are those actually

00:23:26
antenna or are they eyeballs. That's the other thing.

00:23:29
Make sure you understand what it is.

00:23:31
It's you're looking at. So that is why it's really a

00:23:34
good idea if you're trying to ID something that you take a

00:23:36
picture of it, okay? The next thing that we want to

00:23:39
observe is its behavioral traits.

00:23:43
Specifically, we are looking at feeding habits.

00:23:47
So what does it doing? When it's eating, is it chewing

00:23:52
on the leaves? Is it sucking the sap or is it

00:23:55
praying on another insect? Right?

00:23:58
This is going to let us know number one, if it's a problem in

00:24:02
the garden, if it's chewing the leaves, or if it's sucking the

00:24:04
sap or if it's praying under insect, that's likely a

00:24:08
beneficial insect. In our garden.

00:24:10
The feeding habits of the insect is going to indicate to us what

00:24:14
its mouth parts are like. And so we have you know biting

00:24:18
mouth parts, we have sucking mouth parts and we have chewing

00:24:21
mouth parts and so these are things that we can use to

00:24:24
identify the insect, the time that it is active in, the garden

00:24:29
is also important. Is it during the day, or is it

00:24:32
more at night? Obviously, a lot of us aren't

00:24:34
out there in our Gardens, in the pitch black.

00:24:37
But if you're out there very, very early morning, like Dawn,

00:24:41
or if you're out there late at night, or late in the evening,

00:24:43
when it's dust, you know, our pollinators and our beneficials,

00:24:47
a lot of the time are really most active between.

00:24:50
Like 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. So if you're out there very

00:24:54
early morning, just as the sun is coming up and you're seeing

00:24:56
this insect activity, it very well, may be something that's

00:24:59
left over from the overnight hours.

00:25:02
Same thing as you're going late into the evening, the Moon is

00:25:06
coming out. The Sun is going down.

00:25:08
If you have a lot of very active insects out there, those also

00:25:12
might be more nocturnal insects and that is going to help you

00:25:15
determine what it actually is. And whether or not, it's a good

00:25:18
guy or a bad guy, right? And then all so consider, you

00:25:23
know, its habitat, its location. Where was the insect found was

00:25:29
it on specific plants? Was it in the soil?

00:25:33
Was it out and flying around the flowers Its Behavior and where

00:25:41
you're finding, it is all going to be something that's going to

00:25:44
help narrow down what it is that you're looking at and keep in

00:25:48
mind. A lot of insects can be

00:25:51
recognized. By their General parents as

00:25:56
belonging to a specific family and that's going to give you

00:25:59
some really good information. So, you know, you know you you

00:26:02
generally know what like a grasshopper looks like.

00:26:05
You don't necessarily need to know what kind of grasshopper it

00:26:08
is. Because, you know, most

00:26:09
instances, The Grasshoppers are not going to do things that are

00:26:12
really, really good for your garden.

00:26:13
So if you have too many of them, I might be a problem. but, The

00:26:17
closer you look. And the more information that

00:26:20
you have about the insects body parts, its behaviors its habits.

00:26:26
The more likely you will be to track down the insect, the

00:26:30
actual insect that you are. Looking at on one of your

00:26:32
resources, and get more info is to whether or not, it's always a

00:26:37
pest or if it's only sometimes a pest, if it's there in Mass

00:26:41
again, like, you know, the Pill bugs, or even grasshoppers, or

00:26:46
if it's something that's always a beneficial or, you know, it's

00:26:50
always one of the bad guys, right?

00:26:51
So I mean look we have some very common beneficial insects

00:26:56
ladybugs and generally speaking, this is all ladybugs and when I

00:27:02
say all ladybugs, I mean anything that is in the Cox of a

00:27:05
Cox in Nelly, I think I said that properly Cox and yellow Day

00:27:10
family. Um, we do have certain ones here

00:27:15
specifically in Missouri that are not like the ladybugs that

00:27:20
we are used to, in terms of, you know, eating the aphids and that

00:27:24
sort of thing. They're a Japanese ladybug I

00:27:27
believe or Japanese lady Beetle. That tend to congregate in the

00:27:33
fall around, door jambs, Etc, and they can actually bite you

00:27:36
but they also are beneficial. They tend to be treated rollers

00:27:40
rather than you know, dwelling down on our Gardens and so yes,

00:27:44
they again can be a nuisance if they are there in Mass.

00:27:50
So even though all ladybugs are predators of aphids and mites

00:27:55
and other soft body insects, where they reside and what type

00:28:00
of ladybug they are is going to determine whether or not they

00:28:02
are helpful in your garden or if they are helpful in other ways,

00:28:06
maybe up in the trees, but can be a pest if they are a mask

00:28:09
Gatherings, right? Green lacewings.

00:28:12
Anything in the Christopher De family.

00:28:15
They are larvae feeds on aphids and caterpillars and other

00:28:20
pests. So those are good guys to see in

00:28:23
your garden generally speaking and anything in that family

00:28:25
parasitic wasps, okay? These are going to lay eggs

00:28:29
inside or on the past like the caterpillars, of course, that's

00:28:32
going to lead to the pests demise obviously.

00:28:36
Hover flies surface, the adults, pollinate flowers.

00:28:40
So those are great in terms of being a pollinator, the larvae

00:28:45
also eat aphids so, and among other things, too, I know

00:28:48
there's a few other things that the hoverflies will also predate

00:28:51
on. So, These are good guys to keep

00:28:53
in the garden regardless of where you are.

00:28:55
And then these big-eyed bugs, this is Geo courses, no Geo

00:28:59
chorus, sorry species, they feed on mites, they also eat insect

00:29:04
eggs and small insects. So these are all good guys that

00:29:07
we want in the garden. Of course, really common Garden.

00:29:10
Pests aphids, I don't know of anywhere in Northern or North

00:29:16
America that doesn't have aphids in some way.

00:29:19
These are those really small soft body insects that suck on

00:29:23
the plant sap. They lead to very distorted

00:29:25
growth. If you get them in Mass, this is

00:29:28
what a lot of our beneficials do actually predate on.

00:29:31
In fact, these are such a problem for gardeners that I

00:29:33
actually did a standalone afib episode way back in episode or

00:29:40
in season 1. I think it might have been like

00:29:42
episode 8 or something like that.

00:29:44
So that should tell you exactly how many people complain about

00:29:48
having aphids as a problem. Tomato hornworms.

00:29:51
This is another big one for a lot of people that was very

00:29:55
large fat caterpillars that can defoliate a tomato plant very

00:30:00
rapidly. These are also tobacco hornworms

00:30:03
and I actually have to look it up.

00:30:04
I cannot remember whether or not they are the same And they just

00:30:07
go by two different names or if they're actually two different

00:30:11
insects. I have to look that one up, I

00:30:13
don't remember Japanese beetles. This is one that a lot of people

00:30:16
have problems in Sometimes they are overwhelming in their

00:30:22
numbers and other times we have had to where we've just seen a

00:30:25
handful of them and then that's it.

00:30:27
So I'm not familiar enough with their life cycle to be able to

00:30:31
tell you whether or not they sort of Go In Waves.

00:30:33
I do know that we used beneficial nematodes the year

00:30:38
after we realized we had a really bad Japanese beetle

00:30:42
problem, because they overwinter as grubs in the soil and they

00:30:48
feed on a wide range of plants. They will skeletonize the leaves

00:30:54
and they seem to be have a particular affinity for fruit

00:30:57
trees and rose bushes. And there's one other thing too.

00:31:03
I think that of anyway they especially are a problem when

00:31:06
they start to become, you know, an overwhelming new sense.

00:31:10
Squash bugs. You know, I had to mention

00:31:11
squash bugs, they go after squash, right?

00:31:13
And they also go back to, you know, some of the related

00:31:16
plants. They'll go after your cucumber

00:31:17
plants, if you if you allow them to they'll even go hang out in

00:31:20
your tomato, plants. If you don't, they don't have

00:31:21
anything else to eat. So they're gonna cause the

00:31:23
wilting and you know, death of your plant.

00:31:26
Rose saw flies. These are the larvae that feed

00:31:30
on rose leaves. They create this sort of window

00:31:33
painting effect. This is something else that is

00:31:35
very common for folks. I have not seen them here yet.

00:31:39
Hoping my heirloom Rose stays clean of these pests.

00:31:43
I have not seen them, I haven't looked up to see whether or not

00:31:45
that's something that we have to worry about here.

00:31:47
I do know the Japanese beetles go after them.

00:31:49
So I am just keeping an eye out this season.

00:31:54
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00:31:59
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00:32:05
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00:32:08
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00:32:12
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00:32:14
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00:32:18
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00:33:24
So, like we've talked about before, we really want to

00:33:28
regularly, inspect our plants for signs of insect activity.

00:33:33
Good bugs. Bad bugs in different, right?

00:33:36
We want to know what is going on in and around our plants so that

00:33:41
if we do start to see damage, we know what insects have been most

00:33:45
prevalent out there and we're going to know what to look for.

00:33:49
Take clear photos of anything that you don't recognize as

00:33:56
something in your garden, whether it's good or bad, you

00:33:58
know. And that way you can go and you

00:34:00
can use all of these identifiers for a search.

00:34:03
Now, how do you do this? You know, I am have been a long

00:34:08
time, the Google Queen, like I can find just about anything on

00:34:11
Google with a little bit of time, but I have to have the

00:34:13
right information and you have to know what to put in to the

00:34:16
search. Be as specific as possible.

00:34:19
You can enter something like flying insect that eats

00:34:26
cucumbers, that has Two wings. That tuck under a hard shell

00:34:34
that are yellow and black. And fly during the day.

00:34:40
Alright, whatever search engine you type that into is going to

00:34:44
take all of that information and it's going to pair it up with

00:34:47
whatever and you likely are going to come up with the answer

00:34:51
of a cucumber beetle. But again, if you can take the

00:34:55
photo that is going to narrow it down, if you can use like Google

00:34:59
lens and take the photo and all. So add in that additional

00:35:04
information, then you are going to get much clearer results or

00:35:09
at least you're going to have fewer results to shift through,

00:35:12
okay. All in all.

00:35:15
We want to avoid taking any immediate reaction.

00:35:18
So before removing, or destroying an insect out of your

00:35:23
garden, make sure that, you know, what its role is in your

00:35:26
garden ecosystem. I know, You know, there's this

00:35:31
sort of knee-jerk reaction sometimes, like, you see some

00:35:33
damage on your plant, and then you see these insects there and

00:35:37
you make the automatic assumption.

00:35:38
That that thing that is on your plant is responsible for the

00:35:44
damage to that plant, and that may not necessarily be the case.

00:35:47
The other thing too is to understand if it is a beneficial

00:35:51
insect that is just not beneficial when it is in your

00:35:55
garden and mass. Remember what I said about the

00:35:57
pill bugs? I get messages.

00:35:59
Especially this time of the year when the soil tends to be very

00:36:02
damp around here all the time. And I get messages from people,

00:36:06
like, oh my gosh, I have these pill bugs, they are just

00:36:09
destroying my garden, how do I get rid of them?

00:36:12
And my answer to that is always you relocate them, you don't

00:36:18
destroy them. So I give tips and tricks for

00:36:20
how to remove the pill bugs from the garden.

00:36:23
Which, by the way, my favorite trick is to cut a potato in half

00:36:26
and put the cut side down into your garden beds in and around

00:36:31
the plants that are being predated on and the pill bugs

00:36:35
will more attracted to the moisture and the decay under

00:36:38
those potatoes and they will gather underneath those potatoes

00:36:42
slices and start to feed on them.

00:36:44
So then all you got to do is walk out.

00:36:46
With a little container of some sort pick up your potato, you

00:36:50
know, tap it into the bucket to drop all the pill bugs off and

00:36:52
put the potato back down again and just keep doing that over

00:36:55
and over again. You will remove a large, you

00:36:57
know, number of the population out of your garden bed, and you

00:37:00
can go and relocate it someplace else into a different, you know,

00:37:04
area of your yard, or your garden or whatever, we don't

00:37:07
want to get rid of these insects because they actually are

00:37:10
helping in the garden, there's just too many of them at the

00:37:13
moment, right? The other thing too, is when you

00:37:15
have an insect that is predating, on your insects, on

00:37:18
your insects, on your plants, we want, we want insects per dating

00:37:21
insects all so, but if you have insects that are predating on

00:37:24
your plants, Make the determination as to whether or

00:37:28
not that damage is actually significant enough to warrant.

00:37:32
Killing off that insect. Because like, I've mentioned

00:37:35
before with aphids, if you have aphids and you are doing what

00:37:39
you can to encourage a really good ecosystem in your garden,

00:37:43
you might find that after a few days of their being some aphid

00:37:48
activity. You start to see ladybug

00:37:50
activity, and they very quickly, keep each other in check.

00:37:53
So I'm never a proponent of removing, an insect or harming

00:37:57
an insect in the garden. Before understanding what is

00:38:00
role is in that Garden ecosystem, but also

00:38:03
understanding whether or not you have any predators that can come

00:38:05
in and feed on that inceptive, okay?

00:38:10
I I don't know if it's I I don't want to say it's like oh, you

00:38:14
know all things deserve to live or whatever.

00:38:16
I mean that might be part of it, but I think it really is if we

00:38:19
are trying to be balanced in our Gardens and we are trying to,

00:38:23
you know, avoid a monoculture and we're using all these

00:38:26
interplanting techniques and everything else and it doesn't

00:38:28
make any sense to All Sorts or remove something else.

00:38:30
That is a part of that ecosystem.

00:38:31
Yeah. Well unless it's a squash bug,

00:38:34
and then by all means, go right ahead.

00:38:39
And of course, one more thing that we want to do, I know this

00:38:42
is all about identification, you know, of the insects but we

00:38:44
really do want to plant a diversity of vegetables and

00:38:48
flowers to attract and support those beneficial insect

00:38:52
populations. And that is going to help us.

00:38:54
If we understand the different roles at the various insects

00:38:57
have in our garden, it helps us make informed decisions that are

00:39:01
not just going to promote our plant health and maybe give us

00:39:05
some peace of mind, but it's also going to promote that

00:39:08
ecological balance. And I think the long the longer

00:39:11
we do that in our own Gardens, the better off we are going to

00:39:14
be each successive season thereafter.

00:39:17
So if we can observe our Gardens very, very closely utilize our

00:39:22
local resources for identification and online

00:39:26
resources. When we make sure that we trust

00:39:28
the source, we can foster environments that support

00:39:32
beneficial insects and ones that predate on those harmful insects

00:39:36
and have a better and healthier Garden overall.

00:39:41
Until next time my gardening friends, keep on cultivating

00:39:43
that dream garden and we'll talk again soon.