Growing Okra - Ep. 152

Growing Okra - Ep. 152


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This is positively farming media.

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I think there are two types of people.

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Those that love okra and those that absolutely can't stand it.

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But I'm convinced that at least half of those that can't stand

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it, just haven't ever had it cooked properly if you've only

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ever had it in gumbo or you had an undercooked or oversized and

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it was just slimy, well, you've not really had okra.

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Welcome back my gardening friends to another episode of

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just gross. Something, I'll be honest, I

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hadn't ever even tried okra the first time I grew it.

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We just had so many customers at the farmers market asking for

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okra every year, I decided to give it a try.

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It wasn't until that next summer that I tasted it and was

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admittedly a little underwhelmed.

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Yeah I hadn't had it cooked properly yet either.

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What was not underwhelming though was the experience of

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actually growing the okra those plants were amazing.

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They were huge. They were resilient to just

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about everything our Missouri, summer threw at them.

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They had zero pest problems. And produced the most beautiful

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flowers, all season long as they just produced and produced until

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the first freeze. Finally, hit saving the seeds

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for The Following season was super easy and I even used the

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dried pods to create Christmas ornaments that year.

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And as we recently discussed on a companion, planting episode

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okra can be used to help control whiteflies.

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In the garden. I mean, come on how many other

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vegetables in our Gardens are that versatile and don't think

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if you're not in the South or at least on the edge of it, like we

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are that you can't grow okra. You can most certainly grow this

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Southern favorite in a cooler climate with a shorter season

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with just a few tricks. On today's episode, we'll go

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over at the basics of growing okra including preferred

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temperatures and conditions that are key to its success and

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discuss ways to work around some of those preferences to get

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yourself, a crop even in a short Or difficult climate.

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Let's dig in. Hey I'm Karen and I started

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gardening 18 years ago, in a small corner of my Suburban

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backyard. When we moved to a 5-acre

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homestead, I expanded that Garden to half an acre and I

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found such joy and purpose in feeding my family and friends.

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This newfound love for digging in the dirt and providing for

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others. Prompted my husband and I to

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grow our small Homestead into a 40-acre market farm.

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When I went back to school to get my degree in Horticulture, I

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discovered there is so much power in food and I want to

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share everything. The thing I've learned with as

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many people as possible on this podcast.

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We explore crop information soil, Health pests, and

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diseases, Plant Nutrition, our own nutrition.

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And so much more in the world of food and gardening.

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So, grab your garden journal, and a cup of coffee and get

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ready to just grow something. Okay, so a quick thank you to

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those who reached out and asked about my eye, after these silly

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incident with the tomato plant, I'm fine.

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Really the itching in the burning was temporary and I was

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right as rain by the next morning, what I am dealing with

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right now though. A gardening overuse injury, I

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swear, it's the truth. I have developed gluteal

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tendinopathy from the incessant amount of squatting bending

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reaching and lifting that I have been doing in the gardens.

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I think that combined with using a different vehicle for my

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weekly deliveries which sits much lower to the ground than my

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pickup truck has caused an overuse injury.

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That's normally seen in athletes that play soccer.

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And also Runners, which, of course, means, I now have to

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take a short break from running because I can't take a break

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from the gardening, have to modify the way that I'm doing

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the gardening, which was really interesting while I was

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trellising Tomatoes this morning and I need to add some strength

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training to my routine. So I can be healed up in time to

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start marathon training for the fall.

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But I mean, come on, who gets tendonitis in their glutes from

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gardening. I do.

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Now, apparently, this whole aging thing is just for the

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birds Good news is, I won't have to worry about bending or

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squatting or reaching down into my okra crop okra grows, nice

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and tall when it's healthy. And it really doesn't need much

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in the way of Maintenance, it really has been for me a kind of

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seed it and forget it. Kind of a crop, it's even done.

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Well out competing all but the tallest in the strongest of

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weeds which means I have to keep the Johnson grass out of it.

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But nothing else has seemed to give the okra Cropper run for

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its money. So are you ready to grow okra?

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All right, as always, let's start with the basics.

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The Latin name for okra is able most Gus esculenta sand.

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It's in the malvaceae family, which is the mallos.

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Now, if you've ever seen the flowers of an okra plant, this

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should come as no surprise because they look very much like

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the other species of the family, like hollyhock and hibiscus.

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But that plant family also includes cotton and cacao.

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The true origin of okra is a little uncertain because there

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is no known truly wild specimens, only naturalized ones

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the theory. Three.

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Is that okra originated in very hot areas of Africa, and Asia

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was cultivated in the Middle East in India.

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And there have been carved examples of okra found in

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Pharaoh's temples in Egypt, that seems to have made its way from

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Egypt to Europe in the early 1200s.

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And then was brought to South America by the slave trade, in

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the mid, 1600s and then made it to North America in the early

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1700s, with record of it being grown as far north as

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Philadelphia by 1748. Now, it's important to note

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here. That okra used in West Africa is

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a different variety than what we typically see in the other areas

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of the world which is part of the debate about where a

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esculent has originated because the West African okra is able

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mosca's Cali and it is considered a traditional food

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there, which brings us into a great time to discuss.

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The cultural significance and ethno Botanical uses.

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For okra remember, ethnobotany is the study of a regions plants

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and their Google uses through the traditional knowledge of a

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local culture and its people, these uses are cited as a

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historical and anthropological resource never in.

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Just the parts of any plant without being absolutely

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positive of its effects upon the human body.

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Okra is a multi-purpose crop, it is very much valued for those

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tender little pods but in West Africa leaves Buds and Flowers

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of the okra are also consumed. The dried seeds provide, oil

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protein, vegetable curd and it serves as a cop.

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Substitute dried okra seeds contain 18 to 20 percent oil and

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22, 23, % crude protein, which means it's a very important

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food. Staple, the foliage can be used

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for biomass in the dried stems. Serve as a source of paper pulp

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or fuel quite literally, the entire plant is used in its

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native regions. Now, as far as nutrition is

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concerned according to the USDA National nutrient database, one

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cup of raw okra at 100 grams contains 33 calories, one point,

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nine grams of protein, which is a lot for a small amount of a

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vegetable point, two grams of fat, seven point five grams of

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carbohydrates, just over three grams of fiber and about a gram

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and a half of sugar. But okra also contains a good

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amount of vitamin K, potassium, vitamin C, magnesium and calcium

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along with some vitamin B6. Folate vitamin A and other trace

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minerals. It is a very healthy food for

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us. Okra also contains a variety of

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It compounds antimicrobials and anti-inflammatories.

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Now, if you're an okra lover, you should be aware that eating

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too much okra can actually cause some gastrointestinal problems

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if you're not used to it. And if you have some existing

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issues okra is also high in oxalates and just like, with

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spinach folks who are prone to kidney stones, may want to avoid

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consuming High oxalate Foods in large quantities, and okras high

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vitamin K content. May affect those who use

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blood-thinning drugs like warfarin, Or Coumadin because

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vitamin K helps the blood clot. But because okra seeds can also

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provide oil and protein in regions where food is often

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scarce. The seeds can offer a really

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good source of high quality protein.

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This is also great news for vegan eaters, who may struggle

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with getting enough plant-based protein so how do we grow?

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It okra requires, hot weather, full sun, and well-drained soil.

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It is very sensitive to cold temperatures.

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So even though you will, Instructions to plant it.

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After the last frost, or even four weeks after the last frost,

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don't let that be your guide. You want your soil temperature

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at at least 75 degrees Fahrenheit and overnight lows

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staying above 50 degrees Fahrenheit.

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Most okra varieties need a minimum of 55 to 65 frost-free

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days with daytime temperatures. Consistently above 85 degrees

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Fahrenheit or 29 Celsius to kind of meet its full, Potential and

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some heirloom varieties can take up to 75 days to produce.

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So here we generally don't even think about putting our okra in

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until after our sweet potatoes. Have gone in the ground and

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that's usually well after the first week in June, we just got

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the sweet potatoes, planted over the past weekend and we're in

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the second week of June. So now the okra seeds will go

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into the ground if you're in zone 7 or further south in the

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northern hemisphere that this shouldn't be any kind of a

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problem. You it's the rest of us in zone

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6 and further north that need to consider our varieties in our

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timing a little bit more. So unless you're in a short

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season area direct sowing your okra is the best path.

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I'll talk about all the short season tricks here in a minute

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okra just doesn't love being transplanted so it's easiest to

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sew them in place. For the first few times that you

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grow, it the seed should be planted about a half-inch deep

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and about 10 to 18 inches apart, or thinned to that distance

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apart for the best results. Now, to be honest, though, So I

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just use my little Earth way walk-behind Cedar at whatever

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spacing I can manage. I think it's usually like four

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to six inches apart and I never come back and then those

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seedlings, it really does end up as a thick stand of plants, but

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it doesn't appear to impact my yield at all.

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But if you have a smaller space, you may decide to adhere to that

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proper spacing just to make the most of what you've got.

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Now, if you are in an ideal climate for growing okra, they

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can get as tall as 10 feet tall. So be sure you keep this.

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This in mind when you're planning, where these are going

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to be growing in your garden mind generally hit around the

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six or seven foot Mark. And that's why I say there's not

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going to be any stooping or bending with this crop.

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I'm often actually ducking under the leaves though to get to the

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pods. I just can't see from above when

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they get that tall, it's a literal okra jungle and I am

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searching for the pods. Now there are dwarf varieties of

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okra though so if you need something more compact that so

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that it doesn't like shade out, the other plants being grown in

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your small area. You'll be able to find those So,

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obviously, with most crops, the more fertile soil, the better,

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but in my experience, okra can scavenge nutrients pretty well,

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and it has grown in some not-so-great soils, on my place

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I met with compost at the beginning of the Season as

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always. And if your soil is particularly

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void of nutrients, then use a continuous release plant food of

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some type, or side, dress it with a balanced fertilizer.

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You just don't want High nitrogen unless you're really

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depleted because then you'll end up with lots of vegetation and

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very few flowers. Now, I've not used Of the elm

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dirt products on my okra because I've never needed to, but I can

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imagine the bloom juice would work.

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Well, once the plants are established and blooming and

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fruiting, I've also noticed our okra tends to do just fine in a

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drought. I've never seen a substantial

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drop in yield when we've had long periods without rain and

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I've never irrigated mine. So, if you have a challenging

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area in your garden, this might be a good spot for okra.

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And then another cool thing about okra is, it doesn't need

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as an acidic. Soil as most of our other

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garden. Plants it does best in soil with

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a pH between 6.5 and 7.0, so pretty neutral, and it can do

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just fine in a pH as high as 7.6.

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Now, this is about the same as what we aim for in growing

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asparagus. So if you have an area near an

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amended asparagus bed, you can plant okra there and know that,

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the soil PH will be conducive for both crops and sin.

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So creditors, whiteflies it can be a good companion crop for the

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asparagus. And Deterring property may just

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be a reason to grow okra in the Garden or On the perimeter of

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the garden. Even if you don't like to eat

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it, we always have a white fly problem in our Tomatoes at this

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time of the year and okra also gets along well with peppers,

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cucumbers, basil, eggplant and melons, so you might just

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consider it a companion, planting or a companion crop, if

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you have a white flight issue. Now, there's really not much to

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do with okra once it sprouts, other than keeping the weeds

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down, it really is very hands off if you're trying to grow

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okra in a short season or other difficult area here, are some

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tricks to getting them to a harvest before.

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Your first Frost choose fast. Maturing varieties.

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There are some okra plants that are bred to mature in as little

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as 50 days, Blondie, Alabama, red, and jambalaya are a few

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that I know of. If you have enough Frost Days,

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which you live in an area where the Summers can just be cooler.

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Overall like some areas of the Pacific Northwest or mountainous

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regions like Colorado. You can always look for

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varieties that are specifically for cooler weather.

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These include Annie Oakley to Jing orange and Blondie again

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here. And that's Blondie with the, why

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bl0ndie why? Another trick is to start your

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seeds indoors. Now, I know I said, okra does

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best when it's not transplanted, but if you only have a short

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window of opportunity, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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Do start them indoors preferably in something like a peat, pot,

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soil block, Paper Pot or something else.

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That won't require you taking the plant out of the container

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before putting it into the ground.

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If you can just pull, open the bottom of the pot and drop the

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plant into the soil pot and all without disturbing the Taproot.

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The plant will be better for it. And then to speed up the

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germination, you can also soak the seeds in water overnight, to

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get them sprouting more quickly. You want to get your okra

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started indoors about a month before you plan to transplant

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them. And yes, you can grow okra in

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containers, you'll want to go for the dwarf.

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Two varieties that don't get as big because the shorter plants

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also tend to be more narrow which are both traits that lend

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themselves better to container growing and okra is

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self-pollinating. So you don't need a ton of

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plants in order to ensure cross pollination, which means if

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you're a short season Gardner who is desperate for okra, you

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can go ahead and start some larger pots of okra indoors and

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simply move. Move them outside.

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Once the temperatures are conducive, then if an early

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Frost threatens, you'll be able to move the containers indoors

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to protect your plants and finish out the growing season.

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I'm serious when I say you can grow almost anything in a

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container. Now, right after the break,

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we'll talk about what plagues okra, what pests and diseases?

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Are they prone to? And we'll talk about Harvest and

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storage. These last two may just be the

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key to converting people from okra loaders to Okra lovers.

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So, what Hast so want to eat our okra, as much as we do, the most

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common ones are aphids, flea beetles spider mites and

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root-knot nematodes. Now, in most of these, we can

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just spray the pests off the plants, no harm, no foul with

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the nematodes, they are soil dwellers.

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So this is a case where marigolds are beneficial since

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they deter those particular pests.

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Of course if you have a spider mite problem, the marigolds tend

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to draw those in. So they might be better suited

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to be Away from the okra plants in that case, if you've had a

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root-knot nematode problem before crop rotation and

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solarizing, your soil can help and adding chitin to your soil

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by using things. Like mealworm frass or mushroom

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compost is another way to battle them but thankfully okra is one

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crop that I've never had to deal with major damage from pests.

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The aphids I've seen don't ever seem to do enough damage to make

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a difference and eventually the ladybug swoop in and take care

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of that problem. The flea beetles Is can be a

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problem early on when the plants are still small and I've dusted

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with first Saturday lime when needed there, but that's been

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about it. Oh and if you have cutworms, use

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collars around the plants. If you see their little heads

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being chopped off, it's not as pest specific to Okra.

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But just about any plant in the garden is susceptible to them.

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And you likely already know. If you have cutworms hanging

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around and thankfully, there aren't a lot of diseases that

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plague okra the two notable ones are verticillium Wilt and

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fusarium wilt These are both fungal diseases that will cause

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the plant to wilt and dry up and die suddenly during the peak of

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the Season, really the only thing you can do is remove

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infected plants and dispose of them outside of the Garden area

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to prevent the spread of the disease to other plants and

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then, rotate your crop out of there for the next season.

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So you don't get a fungal build up in the soil now.

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Under nice hot conditions, it can take just four days from the

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time you see the flowers on your okra to the time, you need to

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pick the fruit. So unless you're a aiming for

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extra large specimens for gumbo or for drying for crafts.

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The best size for an okra pod is just about the to 24 inch

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length. Trust me when I say you want to

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check the plants daily because just like with cucumbers and

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zucchini, you can blink and the Pod will be over side.

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I think this is sometimes where people decide they don't like

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okra. If it's harvested later, it can

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be bitter and tough. It develops more of the sap in

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the inside. That's responsible for that.

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Slimy texture and then combine that with incorrect, cooking,

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methods. And you've got The Perfect Storm

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for just hating, a vegetable. So pick them while they're young

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and tender use a knife or shears to cut the pods from the plant.

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Otherwise you can damage the stocks.

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You really also want to wear long sleeves and maybe gloves

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when harvesting okra has these really prickly stems and they

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can really cause you to itch. If you're in there for too long,

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I have some pull on sleeves that I got from From sa company.

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The same place that I got. My lovely son, flower garden hat

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and they are really easy to just slip on when I go into the okra

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without causing me to feel overheated gardeners defense, is

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another brand of these arm sleeves?

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I can say they're very helpful in the garden for protecting my

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arms from Weeds or okra stems, or even when I'm working in the

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tomatoes. Now, once you've got them

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harvested, put your fresh cut okra in a paper bag in the

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refrigerator or wrap it Loosely in a paper towel and put it in a

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perforated plastic bag. Do not wash it until you are

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ready to use it and if it happens to be damp, when you

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pick it, be sure to dry it just by patting it dry before storing

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it, it likes a human environment but you don't want them wet.

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It will very quickly grow funky. Like I said, it likes a humid

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environment but it likes the temperatures to be between 45

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and 50 degrees which is warmer than most of us, keep our

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fridge. So put it in the warmest place,

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which is usually your refrigerator door, they will

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last about a week in the fridge with no loss of quality.

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Now, how you cook? It is entirely up to you.

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I will tell you, I have converted even the pickiest

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eaters to Okra by coating. It whole in olive oil and

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Seasonings, and then roasting it at a high temperature in the

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oven until it is super crispy, and then serving it hot with a

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cool dipping sauce. The little stems act like a

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little handle to hold. While you're dipping, it just

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don't eat them after they've cooled though.

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The texture is kind of weird that point and you really can't

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go wrong with a properly breaded and deep-fried sliced okra Yes,

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I love taking veggies that are really good for me and deep

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frying them don't judge me. Now I have one other tip.

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If you live somewhere really warm where your okra actually

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stops producing because it gets too hot and dry or if your

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plants get so big, you can't reach to harvest them, cut them

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down. Yes, cut them down, prune them

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down. So the plant is only about 6 to

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12 inches tall above the soil Line.

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This is called returning and it forces the plant to create new

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growing points. If your plants have stopped

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producing midst, Summer. This will give you a bumper fall

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crop. If the plants have gotten too

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tall for you to manage, they will start growing again and

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producing again in about a month at a much more manageable

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height. I hope this information

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encourages. You all to give okra a try in

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the garden this season, let me know if you give it a go, I

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always love to see pictures of what you all are doing in your

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Gardens. Until next time, my gardening

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friends, keep on cultivating that dream garden and we'll talk

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again soon. You just finished another

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So if you have an area near an amended asparagus asparagus

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asparagus, we always have a white fly problem.

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Grab a glass slow down. Until next time my gardening

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friends, keep learning and keep growing.

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Grab a glass slow down. Until next time my gardening

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friends, keep learning and keep growing.