Getting Started in Fermenting - Ep. 160
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Getting Started in Fermenting - Ep. 160

Fermenting foods can be a fun and rewarding way to both preserve the harvest and enhance the flavors of our garden bounty. If you're a beginner looking to get started with fermenting your own foods, I’ve discovered it’s not hard, but there are some essential things to know. Today on Just Grow Something we’ll look at the key tenants behind fermenting foods, the basics of getting started, what types of equipment are necessary and what are just nice-to-haves. Ready to start fermenting? Let’s dig in!

Episode Resources and References:

Preserving Episodes | Just Grow Something with Karin Velez

Plan Like a Pro Fall Registration

Fermented Vegetables Book

Fermenting Supplies Kit

National Center for Home Food Preservation | How Do I? Can (uga.edu)

Health benefits of fermented foods: Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition: Vol 59, No 3 (tandfonline.com)

Health benefits of fermented foods: microbiota and beyond - ScienceDirect

Eating Fermented: Health Benefits of LAB-Fermented Foods (mdpi.com)

Are Fermented Foods Effective against Inflammatory Diseases? (mdpi.com)

Just Grow Something with Karin Velez (justgrowsomethingpodcast.com)



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Last fall, I did a whole series here on different ways to

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preserve our harvest. I'll link to those episodes

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below in the show description. One of the things that I

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mentioned I didn't have any experience in but was planning

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on dabbling with was fermentation, and I am happy to

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say I took the plunge and have discovered some fantastically

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yummy ways to preserve some of the garden goodness when I'm

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overrun. And in a way that's great for my

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gut health, fermenting foods can be a fun and rewarding way to

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both preserve the harvest and enhance the flavors of our

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garden bounty. If you're a beginner looking to

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get started with fermenting your own foods, I've discovered it's

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not hard. But there are some essential

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things to know. Today on Just Grow Something,

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we'll take a look at the key tenants behind fermenting foods,

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the basics of getting started, what types of equipment are

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necessary, and what are just nice to have ready to start

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fermenting? Let's dig in.

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conversation by saying fermenting is an ancient

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preservation method. It has been used for centuries,

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for thousands of years literally.

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While it is generally safe and can be done properly with 0

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experience and only basic instructions, I am not an

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expert. I am just sharing with you what

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I've learned in my very brief journey in Fermenting So if you

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have any questions or concerns, I'm going to link to all kinds

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to remember to go and write down a link.

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So let's start by answering the question, what is fermentation?

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Fermentation is a natural process where microorganisms

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like bacteria, yeasts or molds break down sugars and

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carbohydrates in our food, converting them into acids or

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alcohol or gases. Now this process not only

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preserves that food, but it also adds very unique flavors and

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enhances the nutritional benefits of that food.

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So at its core, these microorganisms are sort of

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predigesting our foods, which is increasing the availability of

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those nutrients to our system. So some of the key health

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benefits of consuming fermented foods include improved

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digestion. Fermentation breaks down complex

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carbohydrates and proteins into simpler forms, which makes them

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easier to digest. It also produces enzymes that

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aid in digestion and that promote a healthy gut

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environment. Fermented foods are very rich in

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probiotics. Those are those beneficial live

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bacteria that support our gut health.

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These help maintain a balanced gut microbiome which is linked

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to improve digestion, immune function and mental health.

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We talked about the gut brain connection back on a Focal Point

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Friday episode about the link between ultra processed foods

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and mental health. A significant portion of our

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immune system is located in the gut, so probiotics that are

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found in fermented foods can help manage our immune response

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and enhance our body's ability to fight off infections and

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diseases. Now, fermentation can also

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increase the bioavailability of certain nutrients in our foods,

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like vitamins and minerals and antioxidants, which makes them

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more accessible to us in the body.

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These are things our modern diets are often definitely

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lacking. The studies have shown a

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connection between eating fermented foods and reduced

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inflammation. Some fermented foods contain

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antiinflammatory compounds and those probiotics, again, that

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may help reduce inflammation in the body.

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Now, much of this is tied to fermented dairy products like

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yogurt and Kiefer, but to a lesser extent, certain fermented

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vegetables also carry these benefits.

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So even though we're primarily talking about vegetables today,

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fermented dairy products are also very beneficial.

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It is important to note that the health benefits of fermented

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foods can vary depending on what type of food it is that we're

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fermenting and the fermenting process that we are using.

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Of course, individually we are all going to respond to

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fermented foods differently. So it's essential listen to your

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body, figure out which ones work for you.

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Some people tend to jump into fermented foods very quickly

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trying to get all of these health benefits from them, but

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it can often disrupt your digestion a little bit.

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So what I have done is started with small servings to just sort

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of allow my digestive system to adjust, and then I slowly added

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more and more fermented foods each week.

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So if you have specific health concerns or conditions, it's

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always a good idea to consult with your professional, like a

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registered dietitian or somebody who is very well versed in these

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types of things before making any kind of a significant change

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to your diet. So as a beginner, I found it was

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best to start with very simple fermenting recipes.

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Sauerkraut, kimchi, Pickles, these are all very popular,

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beginner friendly choices. They generally have a shorter

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fermentation time and they require next to nothing in the

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way of equipment. So we get that sort of instant

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gratification of that short fermenting without any type of

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large commitment when it comes to buying things.

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Now when we're talking about our equipment, the first thing is

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just to make sure that when we're working with ferments, all

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of our utensils are containers, our hands, all of that is clean

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before we start the fermentation process.

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Keeping these sort of sanitary conditions is going to help the

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beneficial microorganisms thrive, and it's going to help

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prevent contamination from the ones that we don't want around.

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The other thing that I'm going to recommend here is to choose

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fresh organic produce when you can, whether that's coming out

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of your garden or it's coming from the farmers market or from

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a neighbor's garden, whatever. With canning and other types of

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preservation, we know that using those high quality ingredients

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leads to a higher quality result and fermentation is no different

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from that. But even more so when we're

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using fresh and organic vegetables, they are going to

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contain more of those beneficial microorganisms.

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Because you know, those chemicals that are used in

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agriculture and in gardening are going to kill off all the good

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bugs with the bad bugs. And we want those good bugs, we

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want to encourage them to flourish.

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So choose non sprayed veggies when you're going for

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fermenting, and then just remember when you're getting

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started. That patience is key here.

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Fermentation is not an instant process.

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It takes time for the flavors to develop.

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So depending on the food and depending on the ambient

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temperature of where you're storing your ferment, it can

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take anywhere from just a couple of days to several weeks.

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So you need to be patient and allow the process to complete

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before you decide that maybe fermentation isn't for you.

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You're also going to want to be available to monitor the

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fermentation process as it goes. You're going to want to check on

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it regularly just to ensure that everything is going smoothly.

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So I have found keeping them handy in just my kitchen

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cupboard makes it very easy for me to check on them frequently

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to keep an eye out for things like mold or any kind of off

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smells or any kind of sliminess which could indicate that it's

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spoiling. So if you encounter any of

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these, ditch that sucker into the compost pile and then just

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start all over again. I have found it helpful to have

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image resources available just to be sure that what I'm seeing

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is a good bacteria or a good yeast and not a bad one.

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After a few tries I've begun to be able to sort of assess these

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things myself. Just like any with new any new

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skill, it's going to take some practice.

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So having a visual reference handy will make you more

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confident that you're not planning on serving your family

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something that's going to like taste gross or make them sick.

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So just Google some images of what you know the proper

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fermentation process looks like and you should be able to find

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some images of the good versus the bad.

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And I know we're talking the basics here, and the basics is

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far as equipment is really all you're going to need for some of

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the more simple, fast fermenting batches.

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But for things that require longer aging, you might also

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consider using airlocks. These things are going to help

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the gases to escape while preventing any oxygen or

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contaminants from getting into the container.

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So I'll talk about these a little bit as we get into the

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actual process of fermenting. I've found that having a couple

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of little extra tools have helped make fermenting a little

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bit more foolproof, as I have learned the process and as I've

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started experimenting. Now, two things that we want to

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consider before we get started is storage of our ferments

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during the actual fermentation and then storage after the

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fermentation is complete. So understand that different

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types of ferments like different conditions while they are

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fermenting. So vegetables typically prefer

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something around 65 to 70 Fahrenheit, but things like

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kombucha, which is a ferment likes, you know, 70 to 75

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Fahrenheit. And then if you've ever done

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sourdough starter, you know that it likes it a little bit warmer

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for the yeast component closer to 80 Fahrenheit, but cooler for

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the bacteria closer to 70. And then even cooler still for

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it to be in sort of a stasis like a refrigerator temperature.

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So be prepared with a space like a dark cupboard or a closet or

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some other area where your ferments can sit undisturbed

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with as little light as possible.

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This also may mean that you need different spaces for different

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ferments because bacteria like to travel.

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So if you don't want your kombucha to taste like your

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sauerkraut then you may need to keep them in separate spaces.

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I've done lots of vegetables next to each other, but when I

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was also doing my own apple scrap vinegar or apple cider

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vinegar right alongside my kombucha, I noticed things got a

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little off with the vinegar. I think the Scobee jumped ship

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into the vinegar. So if you start to really get

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into this, just be aware that you may need a little bit of

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space do multiple ferments at once.

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But if you're just doing a few jars of veggies, a shelf in my

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kitchen cabinet has worked just fine and then we need to

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understand our storage after fermentation.

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So properly stored fermented foods can last for several

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months without too much fuss, just putting them in a cool

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space. When we're storing them, we're

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just slowing down the fermentation process to a crawl

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with cold temperatures. And while this is an ancient way

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to store food and it's been used for generations, and it is a

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great way to give us access to nutritious and probiotic rich

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vegetables during the time of the year when we really don't

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have fresh available to us. Storing those fermented foods

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for the long term requires a little bit of care just to

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maintain the quality but also the food safety.

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So refrigeration #1 is probably the most common way to store

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fermented foods now, and it's actually probably the safest.

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Once you've gotten your ferment to its desired level of

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fermentation, how you like it, you're just going to transfer it

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into a different, clean, airtight container and stick it

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in the fridge. Those cold temperatures are

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going to slow down that fermentation process, and that's

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going to extend the shelf life of the food, and most of them

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are going to last for several months in the refrigerator.

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But if you're fermenting a lot of foods, you can very quickly

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run out of space in the fridge. I have a whole shelf on my

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refrigerator door that is full of fermented foods.

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If you don't want to have to have a second fridge for your

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ferments, there are other options.

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The first one of those being root cellaring if you have an

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access to a root cellar, or you just have a cool, dark and

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slightly humid storage area like a basement or even an insulated

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garage. If you're in an area where you

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won't get freezing temperatures in your garage, you can store

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fermented vegetables in ceramic Crocs or large glass jars for

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longer storage in. In this instance, the larger

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containers for storage might be a little bit better because it

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preserves the food longer, but the idea is just to cover the

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croc or whatever you're using to store it in with enough brine to

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completely cover the food and then keep it in any area that is

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under 50 Fahrenheit but above freezing.

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You can keep your ferments like this for an extended period of

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time, like a year. You can also instead of using a

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croc there are water sealed Crocs.

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You can use airlocks on glass jars.

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Any of these things are an option so long as you can keep

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it cool and you can keep it under the grind.

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Another method is through canning.

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Now if we're heating up the Pickles or our sauerkraut or

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whatever it is to can it for storage then we're obviously

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killing off many of the beneficial biota.

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But if we need longer term storage of low acid foods that

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we are pulling out of our garden, that would normally need

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to be pressure canned. Fermenting them first is a great

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way to get that pH down to where they can simply be water bath

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canned for storage. In this instance, you're going

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to need to pick up some pH test strips to be sure that you

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ferment your foods to below APH of 4.6.

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But that then makes them safe to water bath can and you can

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follow the USDA guidelines for boiling water canning and I will

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link to the National Center for Home Food Preservation website

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that has all of those guidelines.

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So if you have a ton of cabbage and you've got no good cold

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storage to keep it in, if you like sauerkraut, ferment some

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big old batches of sauerkraut and get them down to the proper

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acidity level and then you can can those babies up and they are

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now shelf stable. Now for some fermented foods

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like yogurt or Kiefer, the dairy ones can be frozen to prolong

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their shelf life. I mean that's again stop the

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fermentation process and so it's going to preserve the food

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quality. I wouldn't recommend doing this

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with any others, but I think the dairy ones seem to do OK with

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this. And then other fermented foods

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like you know tempeh or some types of salami, you can also

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further preserve those by drawing them.

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But just remember that the shelf life of the fermented foods is

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going to vary depending on the type of the ferment, what

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ingredients you're using, and the storage conditions.

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So you're going to regularly want to check for any types of

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signs of spoilage, mold off, smell, slinliness, any of those

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types of things. And again, if you notice any of

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those issues, just like during the fermentation process, after

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the fermentation process, if you see this, you just want to get

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rid of it, toss it in the compost pile, whatever.

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So after the break, we're going to talk about the types of salt

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used in fermenting, the steps to create your first fermented

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vegetables, and what types of equipment you should have on

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hand, along with a few that I've found have made the process just

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a little bit easier. I'll be right back.

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OK, let's talk salt now. I'm not going to discuss

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fermenting with starter cultures like way.

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I have no experience in that yet, but I will update that if

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and when I dig into it. We're talking lacto fermented

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veggies here without starter cultures and that means salt.

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Salt is the most crucial component of most ferments.

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It not only enhances the flavors of what we're fermenting, but it

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also enhances the texture because it's hardening the

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pectin in the cells of the vegetables.

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But most importantly, salt is going to inhibit the growth of

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the harmful bacteria while encouraging the lactic acid

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bacteria that is responsible for the benefits that we're looking

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for here. Lactic acid bacteria are

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anaerobic, which means they don't need oxygen.

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While they're nasty, competitors like bacteria and fungi do.

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So the purpose of the salt is to create a nice brine where all

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the good bacteria can do their good work undisturbed by the bad

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buggies. It also inhibits yeast growth,

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which would breakdown the sugars in our veggies into alcohol

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instead of lactic acid, which of course is a whole different kind

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of ferment. The other thing to think about

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is that the right salt to water ratio is what is essential for

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proper fermentation. So a common ratio is 2 to 3% of

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salt to the weight of the vegetables that we're

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fermenting. The other component to this is

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using the right salt and the right water.

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So let's discuss salt options. Land salts like rock salts or

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Himalayan salts are great. They're usually finely ground,

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which works great for creating a brine, and they have a great

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mineral content. Sea salts also have great

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minerals and other micronutrients that are made

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more available to us through the fermentation process.

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Sea salt has a higher moisture content, which means they're

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generally more coarse. So sometimes this can affect how

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much brine you get initially or how much you know elbow grease

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it takes to get you to the brine.

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But you can always just grind it up and make it easier to work

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with. Kosher pickling salt sounds like

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exactly what you would want to use for fermenting, since

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essentially we are pickling these veggies and the flaked

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crystals of kosher salt do have more surface area to be able to

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draw out more liquid from what it is that we're fermenting.

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This is the salt that I tend to use for most of my ferments.

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Just be aware that not all kosher pickling salts are the

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same. It is still a refined product,

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so it's been processed through dehydration and then it's been

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treated with carbon dioxide and such.

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But there are some brands that then add anticaking agents to

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their salt. So be sure that you look at the

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label to be sure that the only ingredient listed is salt.

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So if you can use an unrefined land or sea salt, great.

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If not, go for the kosher salt and just be sure that it doesn't

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have any kaking agents in it. And then there is iodized salt,

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our common table salt. It is a very refined salt that

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is likely had all of the minerals leached out of it so we

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don't get those benefits. And then you have the addition

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of iodine. It is possible that the addition

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of this iodine could not only inhibit the fermentation

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process, but it can also cause an off color to our final

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product. So For these reasons I stay away

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from refined iodized table salts and I stick to the first three

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that I mentioned. Now, not all ferments are going

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to require water to create a brine, so sauerkraut for example

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uses only the salt and it creates its own brine.

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But if you're doing things like cucumber, Pickles or fermented

00:21:58
carrots, which is one of my favorite snacks by the way, then

00:22:01
you will need to make a brine. It's important to use the best

00:22:05
water that you can, preferably spring water.

00:22:09
Our tap water is chlorinated and that can prevent the growth of

00:22:13
the good bacteria we're going for.

00:22:14
So if you don't have access to a good unchlorinated spring water,

00:22:19
then you'll need to boil your tap water 1st and then let it

00:22:23
fully cool before using it for your brine.

00:22:26
Now essentially for the basic basic fermentation, all you need

00:22:31
is a container, the proper salt and maybe water, primary and

00:22:36
secondary followers, a weight and a cover.

00:22:40
Now of course you'll need things to cut or shred or whatever, but

00:22:43
I'm assuming you have all that stuff in your kitchen already.

00:22:45
Just be sure as your ferments begin their process that you're

00:22:48
using non reactive utensils and containers.

00:22:52
So no aluminum, no copper, no cast iron or low grade stainless

00:22:56
steel. We don't want metals leaching

00:22:59
into our ferments when they start to acidify, so stick to

00:23:02
things like glass, wood, silicone, and high grade

00:23:05
stainless steel. So let's start with containers.

00:23:09
For fermentation containers you can use stoneware, Crocs or you

00:23:13
can use glassware. I use wide mouthed Mason jars.

00:23:18
I'm a canner so it's something I have a lot of.

00:23:21
For larger batches of ferments. I do plan on getting some

00:23:24
stoneware Crocs, but those can be pretty pricey these days.

00:23:27
So glassware is where it's at for me right now and I have half

00:23:31
gallon sized Mason jars that I use for larger batches of

00:23:35
ferments. Now we already talked about the

00:23:38
salt and the water, so let's talk about those last four, the

00:23:41
two types of followers, the weight and the cover.

00:23:44
So the primary follower right? This is just something that you

00:23:48
are going to use as a barrier between the air and your brine.

00:23:54
It can be a piece of plastic wrap, cheesecloth, a piece of

00:23:57
silicone, even a cabbage leaf or a great leaf, a grape leaf.

00:24:01
So when I make sauerkraut, I have a leaf that I leave

00:24:06
unshredded and I place it on top of the shredded ones inside my

00:24:12
glass jar and it acts like a blanket between the shredded

00:24:16
cabbage and the air. So whatever thing that you are

00:24:18
using, this is the primary follower.

00:24:21
It is just a blanket between whatever you're fermenting and

00:24:25
the air above. And then you have a secondary

00:24:28
follower, which is exactly what it sounds like.

00:24:30
It is a second thing that you are going to Nestle over top of

00:24:34
the primary follower and the contents that are believed it

00:24:37
just to sort of keep it pressed down.

00:24:39
We don't want anything floating up above the brine because it

00:24:42
can spoil. You can use a plate that fits

00:24:45
inside your container. You can use a piece of hardwood

00:24:48
that's been cut to size anything that's going to trap that

00:24:51
primary follower and the other contents under the brine, and

00:24:54
then you need a weight. This is going to keep your

00:24:58
secondary follower in place when the fermentation process starts

00:25:03
to cause the carbon dioxide to bubble up.

00:25:06
So if your followers are just sort of floating there on the

00:25:09
surface and the fermentation action really gets going, it can

00:25:12
bounce the followers up enough for some of your vegetables that

00:25:16
you're trying to ferment to float up and out.

00:25:19
So this exposes it to the air and that can cause spoilage.

00:25:22
Plus the more weight you have the better able you are to keep

00:25:25
the brine contained in the veggies and not flowing up and

00:25:29
over the edge of your jar or your crock.

00:25:31
During this sort of bubbling process any heavy sanitized non

00:25:36
reactive item can do the trick. It can be even be like a large

00:25:40
river stone or river rock or something.

00:25:42
I have a glass weight that came with a kit that my lovely

00:25:46
sister-in-law got me for Christmas last year and it works

00:25:49
beautifully well. So I'll use a cabbage leaf as my

00:25:52
primary and then maybe a small plate to cover that completely

00:25:56
while pressing down with the glass weight on top.

00:26:00
Now, another method that I use with smaller containers is to

00:26:03
just use a zip lock bag as a combination secondary follower

00:26:09
and weight so you can put your primary follower in the jar.

00:26:12
In this case, we'll save my cabbage leaf, right?

00:26:16
And then you put a Ziploc bag in place over top of that,

00:26:20
completely covering the cabbage leaf, and then you fill that bag

00:26:24
with brine until it completely fills the void and it weighs

00:26:28
everything down at the same time.

00:26:30
It works phenomenally well in smaller Mason jars when I'm not

00:26:33
making a big batch of something. None of this is super technical,

00:26:38
we just want to make sure that anything that we have that's

00:26:41
supposed to be in the brine stays in the brine.

00:26:46
However you manage to do that in a non reactive way is completely

00:26:49
up to you. And then finally we need

00:26:52
something to cover our jar or our croc that allows the CO2 and

00:26:58
the lactic acid gases to escape while keeping oxygen and any

00:27:03
other contaminants out. So initially I just put my Mason

00:27:08
jar lids on and then I would turn it back one turn so there

00:27:11
was enough of a gap to allow gases to escape out of that lid.

00:27:15
It was perfectly fine, but the kit my sister-in-law sent me

00:27:18
also included some lovely airlock lids that screw right

00:27:22
onto the Mason jars. So I just put them in place and

00:27:24
it allows the gases to escape without letting anything else

00:27:27
in. It's easy peasy.

00:27:28
You can also use the ones that are intended for making wine

00:27:32
that have water in them, which also do the trick, but you would

00:27:36
need to modify your canning lids to accommodate those, or you can

00:27:39
buy ones that are already retrofitted.

00:27:41
So if you're going to go the budget route when getting

00:27:44
started, like me, just put a lid on your ferment and then loosen

00:27:47
it up just enough to let the gases escape out and call it

00:27:50
good. Now, of course, there are all

00:27:53
kinds of extra things that you can get that may not be

00:27:56
necessary, but are those sort of nice to haves?

00:27:59
Like the airlocks I referred to, There's wooden tampers, there

00:28:02
are fancy slicing and shredding tools, stone Crocs, pH test

00:28:06
strips, all those things. But we're talking about getting

00:28:09
started with the basics, and so we'll just stick with those and

00:28:13
get into the actual process itself, which is surprisingly

00:28:16
simple, that have plenty of liquid already in them, like

00:28:27
cabbage or when making relishes, chutneys and salsas, you will

00:28:31
use nothing but salt, and the vegetable itself is going to

00:28:35
create the brine. So you will rinse the vegetables

00:28:38
in cool water and you will prepare them according to

00:28:41
whatever recipe you have. Usually this involves slicing or

00:28:45
shredding, and then you're going to transfer them to a large

00:28:47
bowl, add half of the salt that the recipe calls for, and then

00:28:52
with your hands you are going to massage it in.

00:28:54
You're going to do this like you're kneading bread dough and

00:28:57
then taste it. You should be able to taste the

00:29:01
salt, but it should not be overwhelming.

00:29:04
If it's not salty enough then you can continue to add a little

00:29:06
bit of salt at a time, massaging it in as you go until it tastes

00:29:11
to your liking. So it should taste really nice

00:29:13
while it's fresh because that taste is only going to be

00:29:16
enhanced once you actually start the fermentation process.

00:29:19
Now the vegetables that you are needing are very quickly going

00:29:23
to look sort of wet and limp. This is a good thing.

00:29:26
Depending on the amount of moisture that is in the

00:29:29
vegetable and how hard you are doing this, some amount of

00:29:32
liquid is going to start to pool in the bottom of your bowl.

00:29:35
This is good. If you've put in a really good

00:29:38
effort and you don't see a whole lot of brine in there, then you

00:29:41
can just let the vegetables stand covered on the counter for

00:29:44
about 45 minutes and then repeat the process.

00:29:47
Once you've done this, then you're going to put your

00:29:49
vegetables into your crock or your jar.

00:29:51
Whatever you're going to use to ferment in, Press down the

00:29:54
vegetables with your fist or this is where one of those

00:29:58
wooden tampers comes in handy. And that's going to release even

00:30:01
more brine. Don't be gentle with this,

00:30:04
really shove those vegetables down into the bottom of your

00:30:07
crock or your jar. There's going to be some brine

00:30:10
visible on top of the vegetables when you press them down.

00:30:14
Don't worry if this brine sort of disappears when you release

00:30:18
the pressure. If you can at least see it

00:30:20
coming up over top while you're pressing down, then that's

00:30:23
enough. If you don't, then put them back

00:30:26
in the bowl again and massage again until you get enough of

00:30:29
that brine released and then you're going to pack the

00:30:32
vegetables down into your croc or your jar.

00:30:36
You want to leave enough headspace for you to be able to

00:30:40
put in your followers and your weights.

00:30:43
So if you're going to like a large croc, it's probably about

00:30:45
four inches. If you're using a Mason jar,

00:30:47
it's about 3 inches or so. And then go ahead and use your

00:30:51
primary follower again. In this instance, I usually use

00:30:53
a cabbage leaf or use a bit of plastic wrap and then put your

00:30:58
secondary follower and your weight on top of that.

00:31:01
That's it. That's all you need to do.

00:31:03
At this point, you were going to set aside your jar or your croc.

00:31:07
Typically you want to put it on top of something.

00:31:09
I usually put it on top of a small plate and then put it

00:31:12
somewhere out of direct sunlight in a coolish area.

00:31:16
Again, somewhere between 55 and 75 will work.

00:31:19
The cooler side is probably a little bit better, and then

00:31:22
you're going to start the fermentation process.

00:31:25
Whatever recipe you're following is going to tell you

00:31:28
approximately how long it takes for this to be completed.

00:31:32
You want to check daily to make sure that your vegetables are

00:31:36
still submerged under the brine. Press down on them as you needed

00:31:39
to get the the brine back up to the surface again.

00:31:42
Now you might see some scum on the top.

00:31:44
It's generally harmless. Again, Google those images to

00:31:47
see what it is that you might be looking for.

00:31:49
If you see mold, you want to get the mold off of the top.

00:31:53
That's not going to ruin your whole batch, but you want to get

00:31:55
it out of there so it doesn't continue to multiply.

00:31:58
And this is where you want to make sure that you are using non

00:32:00
reactive utensils. OK, because we're going to start

00:32:03
tasting these things. This is how you know your

00:32:05
ferment is done. It's entirely up to taste.

00:32:08
You're going to look for the telltale signs that the

00:32:10
fermentation process has begun, which is indicated by like the

00:32:13
bubbling of the gases in the brine.

00:32:15
And then after a few days just start taste testing with things

00:32:19
like sauerkraut. The color is going to change.

00:32:22
It should smell a little sour, and the texture to me should

00:32:26
still be firm, not really soft, certainly not slimy.

00:32:30
And then the flavor should just be to your liking.

00:32:33
You know when it tastes, how you like it, which may require a

00:32:36
little experimenting over a few batches.

00:32:38
Then you just transfer the veggies to their final home to

00:32:40
stop the fermentation process and just enjoy.

00:32:43
Now for things that need a little bit of help in the brine

00:32:47
area, like cucumber, Pickles and other garden vegetables, you're

00:32:50
going to need to add water. The rule here is still the same,

00:32:54
you want to keep the veggies submerged at all times.

00:32:58
The difference here is that you'll create the brine instead

00:33:01
of forcing the brine from the veggies.

00:33:03
And there are general sort of guidelines when it comes to the

00:33:08
brine ratio. So unless you have a very

00:33:11
specific recipe that you are following, that indicates

00:33:13
something different. A basic brine is about 1/2 a cup

00:33:17
of salt per gallon of water. For cucumbers, you can increase

00:33:22
that to 3/4 of a cup of salt to a gallon of water.

00:33:25
And then for kimchi, which we're not going to go into because I

00:33:29
have not done kimchi yet, but I do know that you actually

00:33:33
increase that salt to a full cup of salt to a gallon of water.

00:33:37
And then essentially the process is going to be the same.

00:33:39
You prepare the saltwater brine ahead of time.

00:33:42
And then of course you rinse the veggies in cold water and you

00:33:45
prepare them however your recipe calls for.

00:33:48
In most instances it's diced or it's sliced or whatever, You're

00:33:51
going to toss the vegetables together in any spices.

00:33:54
If there is a recipe that involves spices in a large bowl,

00:33:57
mix them together and then you're going to pack the veggies

00:34:00
into your crock or your jar first, leaving plenty of

00:34:04
headspace so that there's room, and then pour in enough brine to

00:34:10
cover your vegetables completely.

00:34:12
So if you're in a jar, this might come up really close to

00:34:15
the rim. Make sure that you leave

00:34:17
yourself some space. You don't have a bunch of stuff

00:34:19
spilling over the outside. It's going to take some practice

00:34:22
and then hang on to any of the leftover brine and put it in the

00:34:26
fridge. I'll tell you why here in a

00:34:27
second. Once you've got your vegetables

00:34:30
covered with your brine, then you're going to place you know

00:34:33
your grape leaf, your cabbage leaf, or you know any other

00:34:36
primary follower that you're going to use on top.

00:34:40
Add your secondary follower and your your weight to hold

00:34:44
everything in place, especially if you're using a croc.

00:34:47
So if you're using a jar, a Mason jar, that's got those sort

00:34:50
of shoulders on them, a lot of the time, you're not going to

00:34:53
have to use as much in the way of followers or weights because

00:34:56
the vegetables are going to be wedged up underneath there.

00:34:58
Again, just make sure that everything is staying below the

00:35:01
brine and then go ahead and put your covering on there.

00:35:04
Set it aside on a baking sheet or on a towel or on a plate

00:35:08
somewhere out of the way. And the towel or the plate of

00:35:10
the baking sheet is there just in case that bubbling really

00:35:13
starts to kind of go crazy and you do end up with some spillage

00:35:16
of the brine over top. And then just go ahead and

00:35:19
ferment for the time that's indicated in your recipe.

00:35:22
Again, you're going to have to monitor the brine level.

00:35:25
And this is where that saving of the brine in the refrigerator

00:35:29
comes in handy, because if you need to top it off, you have the

00:35:34
brine already created. You just want to make sure that

00:35:37
those veggies are always submerged.

00:35:39
And again, if you see scum or anything on top, you can go

00:35:42
ahead and scoop it out. You don't want to have any of

00:35:44
the veggies peeking up out of the brine because they are very

00:35:47
quickly going to get soft and spoiled.

00:35:48
So if you see anything even a teeny tiny bit out of the brine,

00:35:52
make sure that you use a non reactive utensil to either poke

00:35:55
it back under or if it started to get soft or anything then

00:35:58
just pull it out and make sure the rest of them stay

00:35:59
underneath. And again, as these vegetables

00:36:02
ferment they are going to start to lose their really bright

00:36:05
color. The brine is going to start to

00:36:07
get cloudy, and this is when you just start taste testing.

00:36:11
They are ready whenever it is pleasantly tasting to you.

00:36:14
You know, if they're pickly, they they won't have that same

00:36:17
strong acidity as a vinegar pickle, you know.

00:36:22
But but the the taste should be what you are looking for in a

00:36:26
pickle. And again, this very well may

00:36:28
require some, you know, experimentation by you over the

00:36:32
course of several attempts just to find what it is that you like

00:36:36
as far as the flavor and texture of your fermented vegetables.

00:36:40
In reality, fermenting is a simple process.

00:36:43
The main things to worry yourself with is the cleanliness

00:36:47
and keeping the veggies submerged under the brine to

00:36:50
stave off any of the yucky stuff.

00:36:52
I've done sauerkraut. I've done carrots and radishes.

00:36:56
I did a shredded carrot and radish seed pod salad.

00:37:00
But by far my favorite has been fermented garlic.

00:37:04
I did one big batch and they stored half of it in honey,

00:37:08
which has made it delightfully complex.

00:37:12
And then the other half of the batch I transferred into some

00:37:15
leftover brine from my German pickle recipe and stored them in

00:37:19
the refrigerator. And they are a fabulous addition

00:37:21
to anything that calls for Pickles or garlic.

00:37:24
Have fun with it, get the basics down, and then start

00:37:28
experimenting with flavors. There is a world of

00:37:32
possibilities out there with what you can do with fermented

00:37:34
foods. When I started canning, I used

00:37:38
the Ball Blue Book of Preserving, which became my

00:37:41
canning Bible and I still reference it to this day.

00:37:44
When I started fermenting, I used the book Fermented

00:37:48
Vegetables by Kirsten and Christopher Shockey.

00:37:51
It has stepbystep instructions and a ton of recipes for

00:37:55
fermenting just about anything and everything and I swear by

00:37:59
it. I will leave a link to that

00:38:01
book, plus the kit that my sisterinlaw got me, and all the

00:38:04
references and all the resources in today's show notes, so you

00:38:07
can start your fermenting journey too.

00:38:10
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